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Posted 21 June 2015 - 03:26 PM

Paul Bass's ... Kem-Man 5P6v is alive.

 

Ready?...go for it. :shok:

 

I'm very impressed. It draws really low amps but its 'one snappy SOB'. It has not been re-zapped, broken in at 1.5v w/ comm drops for 1 hour. Comm was flushed of the 'slurry' and one clean drop added periodically .  It's cleaned re-oiled and ready to go.

 

It has amazing torque even at 1.5V @ .40 A, it will 'start-up' at like .3v. Full bore bounce SNAPS to full RPM in an instant. It's wild and crazy considering the mass.

 

I wouldn't even re-zap it. Put it in a car at about 3:1 and .... see ya!


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Posted 21 June 2015 - 03:46 PM

Ah pictures of the Kem-Man weren't showing up on my phone ...now they do :D 6 volt Pittman in a Bronco setup sounds like one of those magic combinations that you can come up with :good:

Looks the part too ... Hmmm still have one of those 7 pole 3 volt RAM arms they made for the Kemtron Mustang and a Mustang setup waiting in the workshop... time to finally see what the hop up arm does in the intended mill !

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 04:01 PM

That is a 6 volt 85 arm in a Mustang set-up. Good combo, really 'punchy'.

 

So .. I am fairly convinced that the wire color is not specific to a voltage or wire gauge. Have two 'red wire' 85's w/ different wire sizes. This 6V came with tag and the wire is thicker than the other red wire on hand.


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Posted 04 August 2015 - 04:08 PM

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! :laugh2:  :D  :sarcastic_hand:  :dance3:  :clapping:  :yes3:

 

Hey Paul ... did ya power that 'thing' up?


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 06:01 AM

Not yet, life been crazy, it just sucks when reality interferes with slot cars!!  

 

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 07:45 PM

Now there is proof in that pose... 'round here' bear hunting tags went on sale this week.


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Posted 06 August 2015 - 09:18 PM

the secret ingredient to tire glue ? :diablo:


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:36 PM

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 10:33 PM

Sounds great, very smooth, big torque, good revs for this beast.

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 10:47 PM

In one word, those black & red Parma leadwires Suck!  :laugh2:  :laugh2: 


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:24 PM

Hey thanks Bill. :victory:

I haven't had any issues with those wires in 1000s of laps running them on FCR cars locally and in the Series. I like red and black as that is the industry standard for +/- in low voltage use in other than automotive RV use.

Could you tell us what your problem is with those wires?


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:53 PM

While you guys were away :unknw: .. wait a dog gone minute.. that was me that was away.  :unsure:

 

I was still at it ... LOL

 

A super "Super Wasp" coming up. Gotta say since the 80s building two hole Mura motors have been a favorite of mine.

Thought this Wasp should look the part.  Got War Paint ? ...LOL

 

OMG - Ultra-Smooth, Sick Scream, +42 deg is wild timing, she's a little hottie and hot she gets for a 30 wind. 

Finished out with ProSlot brushes and Champion (red) Lite springs. BB's have been installed both ends 

1.4a @ 3v

1.8a @ 6v

2.1a @ 8v (that's where the neighborhood dogs started howling)

 

Then I ... kicked it up a notch with what I believe is a Alpha pre-furb... not a re-con. Could be wrong on that but the motor said 'it's right'.  Found some more Rs with this arm. Nothing else changed out.

Better balance and smaller com dia. = (Dogs now howl at lower voltages)

It's RTG.  

Note to self - use lint free cloth.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 08:56 PM

call it Bumble BEE, Hornut ! Yellow jazzit  ?? :clapping:  :shok:  :good:


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:12 AM

Hey PB,

As a Punk you know by now I'm usually not at a loss for words or names but on this one I am.  

 

SuperWASP (Wide Angle Search for Planets) is the UK's leading extra-solar planet detection program. :shok: 


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:34 AM

"Killa' Bee"


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:39 AM

BeeNice, :)

 

That one has racial overtones. :o


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:33 AM

Could you tell us what your problem is with those wires?

 

The Parma red & black leadwires are brittle & they break easily. They're not stranded copper, probably are tin. They come from Asia on cheap motors, that should tell you something. No other Asian motors come with them installed. I tried them on my flexi about 2000 & broke a new leadwire while leading a race. I ended up third, but haven't used them since. There are too many higher quality leadwire alternatives. I usually buy leadwire in 10' lengths, so it's more economic. Parma once sold a black silicone coated copper leadwire. That stuff was as good as any other on the market. If you've never had problems with their red & black, consider yourself lucky.


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My wife says I don't pay enough attention to her, or something like that.  :unknw:


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:47 AM

I just stripped and did a razor scrape job on one. Tinned copper. Not worth a picture.

 

Sounds like when you solder them on it 'wicked' up under the jacket. That does make them brittle.

These aren't from 2000, maybe they are better now and you could try then again.

 

How do you like the screens installed to keep the 'bugs' out.everything else look OK? :)


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:43 PM

Maybe they improved over the years, but that don't mean I should try them again. I have quality leadwire from other sources & haven't raced much since the last commercil track in the state closed.  Those screens will help keep things inside too. :laugh2:


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:50 PM

Maybe they improved over the years, but that don't mean I should try them again. I have quality leadwire from other sources & haven't raced much since the last commercil track in the state closed.  Those screens will help keep things inside too. :laugh2:

 

True.

Good idea..  I should use them on all my amateur/armature rewinds. Safety First.  :)


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:19 PM

BeeNice, :)

 

That one has racial overtones. :o

So does Super WASP. :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:27 PM

Not if you are one... :bomb:


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 11:01 PM

1- I was looking for the good stuff. :scratch_one-s_head:

 

3- And, in 8:01 min. this was found. :dirol:

3a -The pictures did take a bit longer. :dash2:

4 -  :heat: to the greats, you know who you are... for setting the bar so darn high.

 

 

 

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 10:41 PM

Really ?  Fiddling with one of those things when there is other more important work to be done.

 

:umnik2:  :acute: "Now put that aside! being so easily distracted leads to procrastination phases and an inability so set priorities. Those could be grounds for a letter in your permanent file, suspension or even expulsion.. so watch your step." :to_take_umbrage: :pardon:

 

A S16D Outlaw key in a DC65 lock , Olympic train motor brush assembly with  tube size adjusted to fit 36D modern.

Looks like I'll have to totally FiddleStick around with those old 'overhead' springs.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 01:07 PM

I cut the center out of the Olympus brush holder insulator to move the brushes inward to reach the small S16D comm. I think I can make this work. :)

The ProMan goes on the side burner... don't think it will make it in the R&R.

 

Soo much fun building 26D motors. I forgot how cool they are, and that 'howl' that they make.  :o

Mint 601 'one hole' complete, all NOS except can. Next up, toss up, all new 617 or rebuild Gr-12 :clapping:


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 03:32 PM

Only recently experienced the thrill of putting a 26D together and the "Howl" "Whistle" :D

Mini padlock project looks cool Bob!
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:37 AM

A "Fresh from Florida" built true Ram-buchi in a Champion can. All NOS parts.

This found it's home in a Dynamic chassis under a very sweet Chappy body.

I hooked it up to the reverb and said "Talk to Me" :)

 

 

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:58 PM

This be the Home of that Thang Gator built !

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:29 AM

I'm very happy with how that restoration project turned out.

You have a real fine vintage machine there PB.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:46 PM

Building nuts -  

 

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:04 PM

I always knew you were a "Nut" Bob.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:33 PM

Remember grade school:

 

"Hey see that girl over there"

- "yeah, what's her name"

 "Joy"

- "Oh Joy"?

 "No Almond Joy

- "why do you call her that"?

"She has no Mounds"

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 11:28 AM

"Next up"

 

A 20t/24w FT36-D EBD. :crazy:  :heat:


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 02:45 PM

Which of these has a short fuse ? :scratch_one-s_head:?

 

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 02:46 PM

"Next up"
 
A 20t/24w FT36-D EBD. :crazy:  :heat:


Holy melting endbells! :shok: One mildly warm armature :D
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Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:45 PM

Going in a full 707 ARCO set-up... if it even works. Testing tonight.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:24 PM

LOL... it literally did flicker the lights that are plugged into the same power strip as the power supply.

Those were full (11.75) volt bursts by turning the supply on like a drag start. The highest I saw was a 14.82 amp bounce.

 

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:04 PM

Love the "Drag use only" decal :D

Could be used for as an open class motor in an anglewinder!

How'd the comm connections hold up?

Neat looking wire wrapping btw :)

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

Thanks PE ....

 

I wound that one in my hand, didn't set up the winder.

 

Solder joins seem fine. It didn't throw a wire in testing. :)

 

It gets Hot fast.... :heat:

 

"Drag Use Only" :crazy:


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 09:59 AM

Took some serious 'tuning' but it now lets out the scream.

 

The arm was not happy in the shimmed ARCO 707 set-up.

I switched the can to an un-shimmed ARCO 703, step cut the brushes and added more spring. 

It sounds so much happier.... and it runs super cool now for a 20/24.

 

so.... I balanced it, then tied and epoxied then rebalanced again after curing.

 

It's totally 'sick' now. I think it's going to need a 'bars car' to hold this 'thing' down.

What a crazy howell...


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 11:37 AM

Needed the Arco cog, just more airgap to breathe :D

If geared right and in the right frame that 20/24 should be brutal!
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:20 PM

It's a 'repurposed' Champion big block in it's vintage colors ....run hard and thrown in the box 50 years ago.

"I love you just the way you are

Mongrel #703-24 sings a note.

 

I static balanced it twice on a Rand. Did a ground slot on two poles for the pre epoxy balance and a file edge in the slot to do the final balance.

 

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:10 AM

Nice! Modified endbell or is that one of the cycolac 707 ones? Plenty of coils on those springs :shok: :D

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 08:46 AM

Thanks PE, 

 

Stock 707 Cycolac EB and Champion springs with hoods aligned and soldered.

The 20/24 arm runs so much cooler in this set-up that the 'Drag Use Only' label is not required.

 

I'm keeping the 'distressed' look for this motor.   :crazy:  That's vintage.... :)


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:01 PM

I'm thinking.... oh $#!^ boy, a serious challenger will put that 20/24 to the test. :dash2:

 

We'll be up against a Monte O wound Foamy built motor ... only runs 70mph. :shok:

   :victory: Peace of cake.  


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:39 PM

Although that 36d custom beast is scary :shok: sounds like your 24# just gotta stay in the slot. Sounds like the Foamy entry has a tendency to crash ?!

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:13 PM

The LUNAR, last years Big36D is on the jig all day getting a nice long set of wheelie bars this year. Ran good as a no-bars but it blew the small hub .300s of till 1/4 track due to the tall rubber soaking up a ton of lighter fluid and launching before dry. The wheelspeed kept it from the dreaded pop...  

 

Then 703-24 goes in, and ....wheeee.... we'll see what happens...  :crazy:

I'll blow the SOB up, hit the floor, the window or wall trying..... :bomb:  

Hopefully it won't have any evil "Nasty Habits" :wacko2:  :heat:


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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:11 PM

That BIG 36D ran very respectfully, MY Wound vs. two Monte O' Wound motors. :)   

 

I can see it now.... we got a 'motor war'  going on in this class.  :good:

 

To be continued ...   :sun_bespectacled:  

Now where did I put those 36D buchi-blanks and LeGanke comms.... :crazy:

 

And... :shok:  it was static balanced no comm cut.  :sarcastic_hand:

That 'ain't gunna cut it' next time.   See ya at the line :victory:


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