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#526 hiline2

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 10:25 AM

Now thats a cool vintage racer !!


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Posted 15 January 2015 - 03:55 PM

Ok, I need to shut my mind off somehow  :dash2:

 

Just going through a hoard of K&B chassis today to thin the heard. Found this stuff including a Super Challenger and some trashed frame rails.

 

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Say, what if I extend the chassis with the junk bits? Okay, I cut the rails and used the extra piece to join it all up. 

 

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Here is the first mock-up. Plenty left to do. Reissue Topolino body on it and the Hemi should conceal the nuts and bolts of the surgery nicely. I thought I read somewhere here that a Super challenger is one of the accepted motors. Somebody please confirm. Thanks

 

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 08:45 PM

Don,  Very slick 60s rocket/jet car.

At 7 1/4" overall it would fall under the Comp/Coupe class and have the chance at a runoff in that class if there are enough in the Comp/Coupe' class.

 The listed classes that fall under the 'Rods" eliminator category is for all the class winner move-ups or automatic move-ups. 

The final race of the event will be the Top "Rod" winner vs. the Top "Rail" winner for the title.

Exhibition classes will 'crown' winners but are not eligible for the overall title. 

 

Does that make sense?

 

 

Joe,

These are on the official rules page list and are legal.

  • K&B Challenger 1502
  • K&B Super Challenger 1504 (1516)

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 04:42 PM

Bob S., that rail is a beauty. Clean as a whistle  :good:

 

Don, you know I love weird hardbodies and that Firebolt qualifies. It's the  :bomb:

 

Here is an interesting fact, in the original Firebolt and in the reissue the driver figure is the exact "one armed "man used in the 1/32 Deuce slot car. Molded in red he's ready to go. This driver is also correct for the 1/32 MG. 

 

Bob, thanks for the rule clarification. 

 

Ok, did a little more tinkering today. Actually really like how this is progressing. Looks somewhat like a silver Russkit Eliminator. You can also see that I've been experimenting with putting bearings in the motor case. Don't think I've ever seen this done before. Stock the axle just rides in the plastic although the plastic is hard as a rock and I've never seen one fail in this area. Bearings are in a vintage holder, case modified to fit them. 

 

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One more question, I was originally thinking of mounting the drop arm up front but I think it looks and operates better here. I can even get the stock spring to work with a little tweaking. My question is this setup going to trip the stage light or am I going to have to put something up front to do it. Is the light tripped by the guide or the tire?

 

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 07:16 PM

Joe,

The guide trips stage lights and starts/stops the timer. 

 

Black or modern guides as the track sensors don't trip with white or shallow blades. Or... foil tape on the blade of the guide works great too.

 

Your K&B Challenger rail is looking good.... darn good. How long are you making it?


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 07:33 PM

OK, thanks for the advice. If I leave it this way ( with a black guide added ) the guide is back 3" from the front but I guess it will be OK if cars are run by e.t. and not what part crosses the line first. Just that my car may look like it's getting a lead when it really isn't. There I go thinking again. 

 

Thanks for the positive on the K&B. I will assume ( don't say it ) that you mean total length and not how long I have been working on it. Anyway, total length right now is right about 8" compared to about 9.5" for the typical Russkit. 


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 08:18 PM

Overall length.... but how long did it take ? lol

 

Keep in mind .... at or over 8" it runs as a Rail, under 8" it would run as a Comp/Coupe.

 

Back up one screw hole and you're there dude... It'll still look like you have a/half/a car length at the line.


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 01:42 PM

:clapping: Roll Call  :clapping:

 

I want to fill in the entry list spreadsheet.

I need to plan for the purchase of the awards based on class/car count.

 

Also: Please post in this discussion any favorite vintage drag images that could make it on to the box plaques. :good:  :D

 

Are there any open questions on the rules or procedures?


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 02:44 PM

Bob, I'm wondering if this is cast in concrete or??  At any rate, as of today it looks like 2 rails, 1 rod, 1 stock for me.


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 02:58 PM

Hi David,

 

I'll populate and display the list but it will flexible to add or remove entries if needed.

At the 30 day mark before the event the list gets locked and the awards will be ordered from the list.

 

Four cars ,,,, Cool :good:  What sub-class type of car are you entering in the 'Rods' class ... could it be a blue T-Bird :D

 

I'm getting charged up about the 'Grassroots' Hardbody Stock Class. :dance3:  


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 03:04 PM

Bob, my Rod entry will be an upgraded version of the resin roadster I ran in Vallejo, maybe a better motor???


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 03:21 PM

At the moment it's looking like 2x rails,1 gas, 2 Altered, with hopefully 1 Unlimited.

plus a separate entry for the 5 year old Daughter and her Altered :D
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Posted 17 January 2015 - 07:20 PM

Looks like 1 coupe and 1 rod (stocker) for me for the moment - want to add a rail, but not sure I'll have the time..

 

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 04:15 PM

Thanks guys, I'll update the entry list....

 

 

I have renamed this event in remembrance of our proxy friend 'Manta Ray' Price.

 

2nd Annual "Rods and Rails"- Ray Price Memorial Drag Proxy.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 05:04 PM

Bob, nice touch on the tribute, never met the man but he always liked my stuff. Said news indeed.

 

Please don't make me read all the rules, is a modern Jet flag allowed?

 

I will give you an entry count soon. Probably 2 cars at this point. Still sorting out final details regarding class.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 05:44 PM

Modern black guide to aid tripping the timing on the track as far as I'm aware :)

Look forward to seeing your entries Joe :good:

Oh and nice touch on the renaming Bob, never knew Ray but he seemed a top notch guy.

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 07:02 PM

Ray was a key player, organizer and tough competitor in Slot Proxy events. 

Always ready to step up. never met Ray or raced with him but I sure enjoyed our phone chats.

Naming the race in his honor is the least I could do...

 

Joe, Paul has it right... If you don't run a Cox or a dyed flag ... a modern black is needed to trip the optical timers in the slot.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 11:27 PM

Hi guys,

 

As Bob mentioned, dye that guide!

 

Here's a shot of what can be done

 

This is a  NOS Dynamic guide, cooked up in black Rit dye.

(while you have a brew going, dye those grotty pink Parma gears for your modern cars, too.)

 


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 11:36 PM

Ooo now that original dynamic guide looks sexy in black ! :D

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 12:20 AM

It sure does :good:


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 12:02 PM

That does look great Bob. :victory:

 

Professor Motor has over 1500 of them in stock:

 

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:15 PM

Well, I fixed up my Firebolt; didn't dye the original Russkit guide, just swapped it out for a black Revell... better not to look too closely at the paint job! DC65-6, modified Cox chassis, K&B dragster fronts and unknown rears, maybe Corben, with Paul Gage urethane tires... 

 

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:20 PM

COOL! :sun_bespectacled:


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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:20 PM

Very nice Don! Look forward to seeing it rocket down the track. Here's to it behaving better than the Fiat did :shok:

love the front wheels and that pittman powered decal .

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:39 PM

Don,

Seeing the before and after ... it came out GREAT!.

 

How did you get the glue of the canopy? Nice!

 

Another one "saved", I like doing and seeing that.


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