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#101 Gator Bob

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 03:17 PM

On a slightly more serious note...

 

 

Better than previously own bed pans ... :laugh2:  :bad:  Don't try to solder pin tubes to them  :o   :sarcastic_hand:

 

Anyting the Professor said 'is right by me'. :good:

 

If anyone is going to use an arm like a Parma S16D 'Please' consider this is a 'vintage' race and remove the 'green stuff' off the lamination crowns ... Send it out, true it or a drill and W/D sandpapers, a little oil or water helps. Takes a while  :wacko2:

 

I say 'reach for the 23' :crazy:

 

Pin tube can be soldered in 4 places ... and/or glued/epoxied.


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Posted 29 June 2015 - 08:55 PM

Now trying to decipher exactly what motor mounts I have in stock. Not easy when there's no model# on them! Now trying what motors I have to see if they line up :laugh2:

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 10:04 PM

My cheat sheet !

 

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 10:12 PM

Thanks :good: very handy!

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 10:48 PM

I was thinking the same thing this morning Bob, about removing the green coating on my cheapie Parma S16d arm....I remembered this topic from a previous thread a few years ago, and I dug thru my collection and found a new one that didn't look too bad...

I got it almost all off, then noticed that I'd sanded part way thru one of the wires... :mad:   oh well....maybe try it again with another one... :laugh2:

 

Or...

Maybe the Dynamic (Mura) "semi-can" with versitec magnets (a part available for the one hole Dynamic / Mura "A" can I believe? I don't have the Dynamic stock number, but I've seen them in Dynamic packaging) in an AMT purple Mabuchi 16d can...and a .500 dia. G15 arm...?

 

Something that I have read in virtually all of the previous Proxy races is that it doesn't necessarily work to ones advantage to build a real powerful motor...but something a bit more tractable is what I'm thinking about...something that is potentially more fun for the guys to drive, and keep it in the slot...(hopefully :) )


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 11:31 PM

 

 

Or...

Maybe the Dynamic (Mura) "semi-can" with versitec magnets (a part available for the one hole Dynamic / Mura "A" can I believe? I don't have the Dynamic stock number, but I've seen them in Dynamic packaging) in an AMT purple Mabuchi 16d can...and a .500 dia. G15 arm...?

 

 

That would be a very hot set-up.


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:05 PM

Confirmed all with Bill.

He is excited to share the fun and will be sure to have 'track specialists' on hand for this event.

 

 

Date set - 12/16/2015

Entry fee - $20.00

 

Good news we will be racing on a "Brand New" oval track ....

 

After the damage from the AC condensate pan leak the track was deemed un-repairable and to the landfill it went.  


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 06:13 PM

 

Proposed three track Dynamic Challenge rules.

 

Hillclimb 13.8v, Oval 11v and Drag Strip 14.7v.

  • 1.5 minute per lane on roadcourse and oval. (no-smoke)
  • Four drivers, 4 cars start and next four come in round robin, driver stays in lane and cars are separated by one so we can 'drift' in the corners and reduce carnage.
  • Eight cars max.
  • All cars will be judged for eligibility by the 8 entrants, with 3 pictures minimum and a list of parts used and posted here on Slotblog.
  • Date - 12/15/2015
  • Entry - $20.00

 Chassis:

  1. All original Dynamic parts including Cast chassis and OEM brass body mounts,re-pop brass parts allowed .
  2. The only thing that can be soldered is the lead wires and 2 body pin tubes.
  3. Modern Graphite guides required
  4. Any gear set.”period only”, 1970 or before.
  5. 1/16" track clearance F&R
  6. 3 1/4" max width

 Motor:

  1. Any motor configuration up to 1970 that is designed to fit the Dynamic motor carrier part # used.
  2. Open armature rule.

 

Body:

  1. Any body up to 1970

 

Tires:

  1. Modern or vintage.

 


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Posted 10 July 2015 - 10:30 AM

Last call - Registration closes on 7/15/2015, that will give entrants 6 months to build and ship.

 

Thank you to those that have entered.

 

Bill Pinch and I agreed - "This will be a fun vintage race on all 3 tracks." 


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Posted 10 July 2015 - 12:35 PM

Are there 8? Any alternates?

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 03:37 PM

Thanks :good: very handy!


and here too

http://www.vsrnonlin...amic/index.html
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Posted 10 July 2015 - 04:25 PM

Phil, as posted ...this is where we are right now 

 

 

OK .. so who do we got so far?

 Did I miss any one?

 

 

in:

 

  1. Jaak
  2. Paul E
  3. Paul B.
  4. Jay G.
  5. Don S.
  6. Phil W.
  7. Tom H.

 

possible:

 

  1. Jairus W.
  2. John H.
  3. Mike S.

 

first alternate:

 

  1. Bob I.

 


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Posted 10 July 2015 - 05:28 PM

I now have a body for a car so it's time to start bolting bits together :D

Thanks for the Dynamic library links!

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 12:46 PM

UPDATES: 

 

Clarifications made based on racers questions.

 

 

 

 

Proposed three track Dynamic Challenge rules.

 

Hillclimb 13.8v, Oval 11v and Drag Strip 14.7v.

  • 1.5 minute per lane on roadcourse and oval. (no-smoke)
  • Four drivers, 4 cars start and next four come in round robin, driver stays in lane and cars are separated by one so we can 'drift' in the corners and reduce carnage.
  • Eight cars max.
  • All cars will be judged for eligibility by the 8 entrants, with 3 pictures minimum and a list of parts used and posted here on Slotblog.
  • Date - 12/15/2015
  • Entry - $20.00

 Chassis:

  1. All original Dynamic parts including Cast chassis and OEM brass body mounts,re-pop brass parts allowed .
  2. The only thing that can be soldered is the lead wires and 2 body pin tubes.
  3. Modern Graphite guides required (Parma, Starburst, Slick7)
  4. Any gear set.”period only”, 1970 or before.
  5. 1/16" track clearance F&R
  6. 3 1/4" max width

 Motor:

  1. Any motor configuration up to 1970 that is designed to fit the Dynamic motor carrier part # used.
  2. Open armature rule. (Any wind, Dia., stack length, or number of poles)

 

Body:

  1. Any body up to 1970 (Thingy bodies must be production based originals or reproductions i.e. no one off bodies - Lancer, DuBro, Classic, Gar-Vic, BZ, Dynamic, Choti ...etc.)

 

Tires:

  1. Modern or vintage.  (any size, compound, hub, or axle size ... (no silicones) )

 

 


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:56 PM

Aero appendages from 1970. 

 

 

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Should the they be allowed in this race?

 

Please Vote:

  1. Jaak
  2. Paul E - NO
  3. Paul B.- NO
  4. Jay G.
  5. Don S.- NO
  6. Phil W. - NO
  7. Tom H. -NO

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:13 PM

Negative

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:51 PM

I'm thinking the only "yea" vote will be from John Cauthen. :crazy:

 

If only the powers that were back then just said NO to those ridiculous wings.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:56 PM

I'll add the votes cast to the post #119.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Sam, while that 'aircraft grade' material choice may not be astatically pleasing there is no denying that those appendages sure helped them fly. :crazy:


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:02 PM

I'm thinking the only "yea" vote will be from John Cauthen. :crazy:
 
If only the powers that were back then just said NO to those ridiculous wings.

Yeah, and they're like Bob's screen name on OWH.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:14 PM

The Professor? :shok:     Bet he likes them. :sarcastic_hand:

 

The real molded 'Pro-Fugly'  has his picture is in the 'Teaming up thread' :laugh2:


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:20 PM

Nope not add on like that... although one off thingies and thingies in general with swoopiness molded in would be fine :good: ;)

Heck was even thinking of dusting off the woodworking skillz for a body mold :D

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:41 PM

:laugh2:  :clapping:

We could vote on those 'Wild Wings' one offs.  ... say that 10 times fast.... :sarcastic_hand:

 

Paul, ...... You mean bodies like these?  ;)

 

Wing Thing.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 10:06 PM

Yes :good: ;) and like that one I showed you the picture of. I found the picture in the 2011 dynamic proxy thread you linked to in your post to Jay . The dyna-slider.

Mentioning you want to leave it open for thingies,one offs etc even ones from competitors own molds.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 11:55 PM

Just letting my mind wander (dangerous thing)....let me see....my '69 mach I had a wing on the back, and an air dam (diaplane?) style front "spoiler"... :D

 

If I built a 36D (Champion 707) in the Dynamic sidewinder bracket and put a '69 Mustang fastback body on it...hmmm...could I tack enough "wings" on it to keep it on the track...make it competative?(it might do o.k. on a swoopy track and the strip, but a twisty road course...forget it :sarcastic_hand:

 

Anyway....I guess what I'm saying is that the "added" aero appendages are a Pandora's box...and I think (my vote) we should keep the no added wings, spoilers, appendages bit.

 

My choice of chassis is really heading towards an inline 16D powered for over-all compromise performance on all of the tracks.

 

Or...??? did Dynamic make a 16D sidewinder style cast motor bracket similar to the 26 and 36 style full sidewinder?


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:50 AM

Yes they did, but I believe only in the can drive style... 

 

I would also vote against the appendages, even tho they are really period correct. I would also have voted against the Thingies in fact... but I assume we're allowing period handling bodies? 

 

Don 

 

PS: will the cars be running with any kind of glue? 



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:16 AM

Don

 
PS: will the cars be running with any kind of glue?

The Modelville tracks are all nicely spray glued. Retro cars usually run treated or non-treated tires depending on how well the car hooks up.

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 01:51 PM

It's a landslide....LOL 

 

No wings wins.

 

 

Aero appendages from 1970. 

 

 

post-53-1209893794.jpg

 

Should the they be allowed in this race?

 

Please Vote:

  1. Jaak
  2. Paul E - NO
  3. Paul B. -NO
  4. Jay G. - NO
  5. Don S.- NO
  6. Phil W. - NO
  7. Tom H. -NO

 


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:16 PM

In reference to item #115 My vote is no :ambivalent:


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:39 PM

Don The Modelville tracks are all nicely spray glued. Retro cars usually run treated or non-treated tires depending on how well the car hooks up.

 

The tracks are cleaned and spray glued a few days or more before state or retro series races at TheRaceway.  

 

Slip is better than tip .... these kind of cars might need treated or wonder rubber.

 

We can run some modern cars on all lanes to clean'em up first. 


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:27 PM

That's cool about no *added* air control, how's things looking for swoopy one off thingies? :good:

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:34 PM

FINAL -  Dynamic Challenge of 2015 rules.

 

Hillclimb 13.8v, Oval 11v and Drag Strip 14.7v.

  • 1.5 minute per lane on roadcourse and oval. (no-smoke)
  • Four drivers, 4 cars start and next four come in round robin, driver stays in lane and cars are separated by one so we can 'drift' in the corners and reduce carnage.
  • Eight cars max.
  • All cars will be judged for eligibility by the 8 entrants, with 3 pictures minimum and a list of parts used and posted here on Slotblog.
  • Date - 12/15/2015
  • Entry - $20.00

 Chassis:

  1. All original Dynamic parts including Cast chassis and OEM brass body mounts,re-pop brass parts allowed .
  2. The only thing that can be soldered is the lead wires and 2 body pin tubes.
  3. Modern Graphite guides required (Parma, Starburst, Slick7 )
  4. Any gear set.”period only”, 1970 or before.
  5. 1/16" track clearance F&R
  6. 3 1/4" max width

 Motor:

  1. Any motor configuration up to 1970 that is designed to fit the Dynamic motor carrier part # used.
  2. Open armature rule. (Any wind, Dia., stack length, or number of poles)

 

Body:

  1. Any body up to 1970 (Thingy bodies must be production based originals or reproductions i.e. no one off bodies - Lancer, DuBro, Classic, Gar-Vic, BZ, Dynamic, Choti ...etc.)
  2. No added wings or spoilers.  

 

Tires:

  1. Modern or vintage.  (any size, compound, hub, or axle size ... (no silicones) )

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:37 PM

That's cool about no *added* air control, how's things looking for swoopy one off thingies? :good:

 

I think it's best if we use bodies that were available in 1970.


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:47 PM

Sorry I'm late to the voting party, and not that it makes a difference, but I vote "No" also.


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 07:20 PM

You forgot to include me in the proxy with my GE MKIV motor!


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Posted 15 July 2015 - 10:21 AM

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 10:24 AM

The Entry list of competitors for the 2015 Dynamic Challenge.

 

Welcome and Thank You....

 

 

 

  1. Jaak B.
  2. Paul E
  3. Paul B.
  4. Jay G.
  5. Don S.
  6. Phil W.
  7. Tom H.
  8. John A.

 

 

First alternate:

 

  1. Bob I.

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 09:24 AM

Addressing added weight:

 

- Dynamic screw on or stick-on lead only.


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 10:49 PM

Sick-on lead...is that from eating too many paint chips or sumthin'? :bad:


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 11:11 PM

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 05:24 AM

That little Dutch Boy might be an ancestor of mine...? I could paint my chassis with 10 or 20 coats of his high lead paint, to keep the weight on the down-low... :dance3:

 

It's been since the mid 90's since I've run a Dynamic chassis...they are quite light...I need to do some weight and balance calculations... :D


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Posted 19 July 2015 - 06:48 AM

Having never setup or raced one of these cars before, do they need that much ballast ?

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 07:54 AM

Good rule of thumb:

 

The thicker the wire - the thicker the lead  :crazy:


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Posted 19 July 2015 - 07:57 AM

Good rule of thumb:
 
The thicker the wire - the thicker the lead  :crazy:


In that case I need a boat load of that girth increasing ballast ! :laugh2:

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 01:41 PM

We can definitely run all three AMR tracks at Modelville.

Do we want to continue at Modelville with these rules?:

- 1.5 minute per lane on roadcourse and oval. (no-smoke)
//Or go to 2 minute heats//
- Four drivers, 4 cars start and next four come in round robin, driver stays in lane and cars are separated by one so we can 'drift' in the corners and reduce carnage.
//Or go with eight drivers at once//

Where are the manly cars? (Having said this, mine will be the first to explode!)

Thoughts or suggestions?

Also, does anyone have a raceway that wants to host a third leg, builder or not?

Jaak, what's going on down in Brazil? 😎

#145 Gator Bob

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 01:07 AM

What's the power on the tracks there Phil?

 

A big difference is if the cars go straight to the next track or come back to the shop first.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 01:10 AM

 BTW:

 

Still open for back up names .. alternates.

 

Tip: Get on the list in case it opens up to more than 8 cars.  ;)


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:01 AM

Sorry,

I just discovered this thread and had to read the rules hurriedly.

I am interested in case there is an opening for more than 8 cars. I just love Dynamic.

Luciano


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:04 PM

Welcome Luciano, If you have any questions on the rules just ask.

 

 

 

 

The Entry list of competitors for the 2015 Dynamic Challenge.

 

Welcome and Thank You....

 

 

 

  1. Jaak B.
  2. Paul E
  3. Paul B.
  4. Jay G.
  5. Don S.
  6. Phil W.
  7. Tom H.
  8. John A.

 

 

Alternate:

 

  1. Bob I.
  2. Luciano Luppi

 


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Posted 01 August 2015 - 09:04 PM

Guys...I've got a question or two...

 

Is there a specific (Dynamic part number) front wheel for use with the #586 floppy (wire) front axle?

I have some Buzco Wheelies...and a few other styles, but we'd like to use as many Dynamic parts as possable...correct?

 

I'm all for "period correct", and "in the spirit of"...and after searching the blog and vsrn I don't seem to find any 1/16" axle front wheels / tires packaged and sold as a Dynamic part.


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Posted 01 August 2015 - 09:57 PM

Here's a link to the wheels #626 (w/o tires):

http://m.ebay.com/it...2285?nav=SEARCH

You'll have to find tires to mount for these...

Phil





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