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[sportblazer350]

Max, you and Joey starting something really good here at The Race Place, and it's only going to get bigger and better!  Looking forward to new cars and racers. Next week I will race my '70 Chevy Stock car, and see how it fares against the rest of the field. And I will eventually get my 30's Paddy Wagon onto the track- the "thingies" (Batmobile, Lil Red Wagon) need some company.  After that I plan to build and race a few vintage (30s-40s-50s) rat rods/hot rods. This is too much fun!   

[Metalflake King]

Another fun-filled day of Hardbody racing at The Race Place. The lap count continues to go up as the lap times drop across the board. Dave and Corey were the two new racers to join the others that came and got their fix before a two-week summer break.

[Metalflake King]

Some sweet new rides hit the track yesterday. The orange Ford belongs to Chuck and the yellow Chevy to Kenny. 

 

 

 

 

[sportblazer350]

yes, another fun day of Hardbody racing. And my big 'ol  '70 Chevy Stocker missed the podium by only 2 laps, and with a 7.14  fast lap!! That Richard Petty car  that Chris races is too quick! 

 

And Max once again busts out of the 7 second lap range, and dips down into the 6's- just shows that we can get a lot out of an H&R Racing chassis, with the right body

 

Wait- hold everything- Joey turned a 6.699 lap time??!! he musta had a rider......I know he's fast, but is he really that fast??   (yeah, he's that fast )

 

Welcome new racers- I love those vintage Stock cars

 

see you all in a few weeks- now back to my work bench    

[Joexemm]

no no no that was a rider! i promise if i was that fast i wouldn't use that car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Metalflake King]

Ok guys, The Race Place is back from vacation and on schedule for racing.  I enjoyed an evening of Group 10 racing yesterday and looking forward to Hardbody this Sunday.  Two weeks off, I'm expecting to see some new cars and bodies hit the track this weekend!

[sportblazer350]

should be able to make it.

[Metalflake King]

After a two week vacation Hardbody was back in full swing on a Labor Day weekend.  And the results are...

1  Kurt Mansfield

2  Max Mohring

3  Mike Haskins

4  Joseph Emm

5  Glen Orban

6  Chuck Malave

7  Stan LaPerrier

8  Chuck Hardy

9  Dave Hardy

 

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[Metalflake King]

The link for this weeks race video is http://www.ustream.t...corded/72587001 .

Chuck Malave was sporting his new ride, a Porsche 962 in his orange and white team colors.  That's one body that handles very well on the H&R chassis .

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[sportblazer350]

check your photos as my '34 Ford hot rod is not in this group pix, so if you have another with my car you can update the group photo

[Metalflake King]

Hard body is cool !  The cars look awesome and are just plain fun.  Here are this weeks race results...

 

1  Andy Sr

2  Max Mohring

3  Glen Orban

4  Kurt Mansfield

5  Chris W

6  Carl P

7  Alex W

8  Chuck Malave

 

Please excuse the missing last names, I will edit when I get them.

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[rvec]

I am always interested in hard body racing, because I think it is most realistic and detailed from of the hobby. Hard body racing is the focus of our Electron Raceway group in Oregon (see forum and sub forums on Slotblog). Congratulations on your success with a hard body class. Although I have not read your rules, it seems like you are running any hard body car on the H&R chassis. Are you running the stock H&R motor and gearing? Are static brass side pans allowed?

I know that we are all looking for that little edge on the competition so here are my thoughts

• The GT1/Group C cars are typically quite wide and low. You might want to consider one of these. I have posted a thread called the tale of the tape that shows the physical attributes of each of several GT1/Group C cars (as well as the Ferrari Enzo) that may help decide which car is best. See the link http://slotblog.net/...-tape/?p=608506 I have also posted articles on building a Toyota GT-One (building the ultimate GT1) and Jaguar XJ220. See the link then cursor down to select the article http://slotblog.net/...ceway-projects/
• As far as sports cars go, many in our group have settled on the Ferrari 458. Here is a link to that build http://slotblog.net/...rari-458-build/ and a couple of images below. The 458 is very wide at 3.25 inches and has huge wheel openings. The size of the openings allow the wheels to be set at the outermost part of the bodywork rather than be tucked under allowing for a wider effective track
• The Can-Am cars are also a good choice because they are so low. The downside is that their shorter wheelbase may make them a bit more difficult to drive. Tamiya makes a slot car body for the Lola T-70, Lotus and McLaren Elva. The T-70 has larger wheel openings but the Elva seems lower. The Lotus looks great. See a few images below

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[Metalflake King]

Hardbody racing at The Race Place has been a growing class.  Its realism and the challenge of figuring out a new chassis has attracted a lot of our racers and even some that were not racers previously.  We have stepped up from the H&R motor to the JK 25k motor.  Adding of weight and pans is legal however some have figured out how to make the cars work with no additional weight and its paying off with podium finishes.

Here are a copy of our rules at the bottom...

Rich your threads on builds and technical information have been very helpful and we look at Electron Raceway for insight on what works.  Your racers defiantly put the time into the cars and it shows. 

We are about to start a new points series race next month called the Hardbody Challenge as a supplement to our current weekly race.  A much faster and more aggressive take on Hardbody that allows for a choice of five different chassis' as a staring point with open body and chassis modification.  Powered by a ProSlot FK4002 motor these cars are screamers.  Posting of rules along with results and pics coming soon... 

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[rvec]

Thanks Max,
BTW we have tried the FK4002 on a experimental basis. The motor is smaller than the 16d type motor and really has some punch. One of the big advantages of a smaller motor is that it can be mounted as a sidewinder rather than an anglewinder (this applies to cars with a narrow rear track like the Can-Am rides). This makes for better mesh and faster times. For our smaller tracks with tight turns (as small as 8 inch radius at STR and 12 inch radius at Electron Raceway), the FK4002 has, in my opinion, just too much torque and it is almost impossible to handle. On big tracks with sweeping turns, it should be fine.

Just for information, our GT1 class uses the Hawk 7 or Falcon 7 motor. The Hawk has better brakes so most have migrated to it. All of our other classes run the ProSlot 2002 or Deathstar.

It will be interesting to see what chassis you decide to use in your new class. We have been told that neither the Scholer nor the Plafit (we use as an alternative) will be imported to the US in the future. What chassis do you have in mind?

[Dennis David]

I'm also a big fan of hard body racing.

[rvec]

I'm also a big fan of hard body racing.

Dennis,
What chassis/body combinations are you using? Post some images if you can

[sportblazer350]

Hi Rich, I too have been reading most/all of your group's Hardbody posts. With the current H&R chassis Hardbody class we do have a couple of cars with the Tamiya series of re-issue slot car Can-Am bodies. They do work well, and yes, the shorter wheelbase and wider stance is a handful, but they do very good. . Right now the cars with the Porsche 956/962 type bodies are performing best. In this group we are not using any "nuts and bolts" types of chassis. I do own several older Plafit chassis, and I like the adjustability of them, great for all types of hardbodies. Scaleauto makes another good adjustable chassis. Have not tried a Scholer. I have some by MJK, more like copies of 1960's Russkits. We will have to take some pix of the bottoms of our chassis, and more close-ups.

[rvec]

Hi Rich, I too have been reading most/all of your group's Hardbody posts. With the current H&R chassis Hardbody class we do have a couple of cars with the Tamiya series of re-issue slot car Can-Am bodies. They do work well, and yes, the shorter wheelbase and wider stance is a handful, but they do very good. . Right now the cars with the Porsche 956/962 type bodies are performing best. In this group we are not using any "nuts and bolts" types of chassis. I do own several older Plafit chassis, and I like the adjustability of them, great for all types of hardbodies. Scaleauto makes another good adjustable chassis. Have not tried a Scholer. I have some by MJK, more like copies of 1960's Russkits. We will have to take some pix of the bottoms of our chassis, and more close-ups.

Right on Glenn! The Tamiya Re-issues are great. If you are looking for somewhat unique rides these are a good choice. Also, if you are as old as I am, you probably grew up watching these cars run in real life. I personally have the Lola T-70 and the Porsche Carrera 6 (Aka 906) shown below and in an projects section of the Electron Raceway site. See the link http://slotblog.net/...arrera-6-build/ The Carrera 6 is ultra low and has performed quite well in races. The table below shows comparisons with other similar cars. Ron and I both have Porsche 917s. Although neither of us have run them in a race, in testing they are blazing fast. You might guess this anyway because they are much wider than other rides like the T-70 or Carrera 6 and they are low. I love the look of the Ford GT40s but they have a relatively narrow front track this puts them at a disadvantage. I also like the Ferrari 512. It is wide and low but not as good a choice as the Porsche 917. I have included some images of these and other cars we have run in the class.



The GT1/Group C cars like the 962, 956 and others should be doing quite well. The combination of a relatively long wheelbase, width and low CG may win the day. Please post some images of your 956/962 and especially your Toyota GT-One

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[Shamong]

Hey Max

There will be a group of racers at The Race Place on the 26th of this month at 1pm. Some of the guys have expressed interest in racing with you guys. It would be nice if you came out and talked with them a lot of them have H&R cars. They run H&R, BRM and ScaleAuto. I know that I am building a car to come out on a Sunday with you guys.

Hope you can come out.

Al

[sportblazer350]

Rich, who makes the Ferrari 512 body?? and where can I buy one??

[eAddict]

These all look awesome!  Now to convince a few more folks in our club to race these.  I guess the JK 26k just out performed the H&R? 

[rvec]

Rich, who makes the Ferrari 512 body?? and where can I buy one??

Fujimi protar Heller all the same kit.
Google ferrari 512s. Expensive

[Joexemm]

What time do you guys plan on being there. unfortunately the 26th me and max will be at a car show that he is staging his sweet drag car in we will try and make it there to meet and talk for a bit but that really depends what time you will be there. Otherwise Jerry the track owner does have the rules and can get in contact with us if he cant answer any questions you may have. 

 

Static pans are allowed as far as im concerned that is "strategic weight placement" =) im a racer and i like having an edge

[Metalflake King]

Hi Al,

Unfortunately I will not be able to make it on Saturday.  Joe or Kurt should be able to meet you there if your still coming around 1PM.  I sent you a private message with some contact info, please let me know.  Jerry the Race Place owner is very knowledgeable and keeps parts in stock.  You will have a great time racing with us.

[Metalflake King]

Vince, yes the JK 26k motors are a bit faster and have better longevity than the H&R motors but still plenty controllable.