Please leave "scale" out of your case
I meant " Real " Scale. Like Hardbody cars with those screw together chassis. They run scale (almost) size tires. 4 of them. Maybe I should use the term " True Scale "?
New JK stamped chassis
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Posted 08 October 2016 - 06:48 PM
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Posted 08 October 2016 - 08:33 PM
OK. Understand 
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Posted 08 October 2016 - 10:52 PM
There is a contest on the JK Products FB page to come up with a name.
Gator Bob said and submitted to Tim.
"Cheetah 2J"
No fronts - No backs- No matter.
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Nice picture.
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Posted 09 October 2016 - 07:56 AM
JK fronts,and they look great.
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Joseph Migliaccio. Karma it's a wonderful thing.
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Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
"Drive it like you're in it!!!"
"If everything feels under control... you are not going fast enough!"
Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
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Posted 09 October 2016 - 03:02 PM
I want that new chassis NOW. When will it ready?
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Posted 09 October 2016 - 04:06 PM
Pretty soon. Possibly a week to 10 days, but don't quote me.
OH CRAP! .....That's twice. 
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Posted 10 October 2016 - 08:11 AM
No fronts? Is that what slot racing started out as and has evolved to? I hope not.
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Posted 10 October 2016 - 09:06 AM
This has been the norm since people found that the ears on the front of the chassis could be used as skids. They would bend the front axle so the fronts would not touch. They became useless appendages that just caused more problems. I haven't used fronts on any Flexi racing where the rules don't require them. Had them for one race at Buzz-A-Rama. Because that's what Buzzy put in the rules. There was also a .063" clearance. He's as Old School as they come.
So this chassis did away with the pretense of the fronts as a functioning component. Sticker fronts are the norm now in many classes of Flexi racing. NBD. That's evolution.
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Wow!!! I hope this will give a shot-in-the-arm for GT1/Hero class racing in this area.
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Posted 10 October 2016 - 04:55 PM
When JK releases a new chassis like this do they typically come out with enough to fill the distribution channel? I'm just wondering if these will be realistically available or if they will dribble them out over time as interest picks up.
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Posted 10 October 2016 - 06:22 PM
They can only ship what the distributors order.
I haven't heard anything that would indicate any supply issues.
I have one I'll be testing tonight.
I'll tell you what. Tim has really found a terrific craftsman to build his RTR cars. I'm really impressed with the roller he handed me. Bearings are immaculately soldered in. Perfect gear mesh. Perfect side play.
Guide nut was a little tight. LOL.
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Posted 22 October 2016 - 02:32 AM
Well... MSwiss.... how did the test go?
What were your thoughts of this new chassis??
I can't see why it couldn't be a three-piece??
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I can't see why it couldn't be a three-piece??
Simple, ISRA rules.
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Posted 22 October 2016 - 01:27 PM
Simple, ISRA rules.
.... haven't asked Tim about it, but I don't think the design lends itself real well to it.
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Posted 22 October 2016 - 01:46 PM
Well... MSwiss.... how did the test go?
What were your thoughts of this new chassis??
I can't see why it couldn't be a three-piece??
I ran it.
I thought it (Cheetah A) was great, but any data I could provide would really be value, only to my local racers.
I tried to do an A-B with an X25,with all the same componennts, but the tires that were about perfect on the Cheetah A, were way too sticky on the heavier X25, so hopes of anything you could call scientific, were dashed..
As far as a 3 pc,, maybe it could be done, but it looks like with any kind of up-down movement, it would be a pan dragger.
Maybe not.
It doesn't matter enough to me to spend anymore time arguing the logistics.
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Posted 22 October 2016 - 02:08 PM
I ran it.
I thought it (Cheetah A) was great, but any data I could provide would really be value, only to my local racers.
I tried to do an A-B with an X25,with all the same componennts, but the tires that were about perfect on the Cheetah A, were way too sticky on the heavier X25, so hopes of anything you could call scientific, were dashed....
Thanks Mike
So it was different (lighter) but not necessarily faster?
Was this on your King or Flat track?
Oh, and what motor did you test with??
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Posted 22 October 2016 - 02:41 PM
So it was different (lighter) but not necessarily faster?
Much faster times, especially on the flat track, but the tires were way wrong for the X25.
Was this on your King or Flat track?
Both.
Oh, and what motor did you test with??
A noisy Hawk 6.
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Posted 06 November 2016 - 03:07 AM
I understand these are shipping to wholesalers next week so we should see them start to become available soon. I notice PCH is taking pre-orders.
I'm interested in hearing feedback from those who get them first and have a chance to power them up and run them on a track, flat or banked. Feedback is feedback.
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Posted 06 November 2016 - 08:47 PM
Mike,
Put my name on one to pick up at or after the next local ISRA race.
Did the replacement pins for the Mossetti kits ever get ordered?
Put my name on one to pick up at or after the next local ISRA race.
Did the replacement pins for the Mossetti kits ever get ordered?
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Posted 06 November 2016 - 08:57 PM
Will do, Larry.
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Posted 11 November 2016 - 10:08 PM
Previous B Production hot lap best time, IIRC, was 4.17, on the Fiedler Flat.
I just turned a couple 4.00s with Rob Voska's new Cheetah A car.
He assured the rest of the guys here he got it last night and built it out of the bag, no flattening, no jigging.
I just turned a couple 4.00s with Rob Voska's new Cheetah A car.
He assured the rest of the guys here he got it last night and built it out of the bag, no flattening, no jigging.
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Posted 12 November 2016 - 08:44 AM
Great to hear, and thanks for the update. I can't wait to run mine in A Production trim.
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Posted 16 November 2016 - 05:50 AM
Finally had a chance to have some track time with this new chassis on our flat track
Was very flat, got going quickly with just some minor tweaks to flatten but nothing major required.
Soldered easy and as yet no staining or rust from the flux
Handling - Very lively compared to the (already lively) X25, with a slight tendency to pop the nose out on longer sweeping flat corners, I guess that's the result of light weight and torquey motor, and a track with heaps of grip.
Some lead on the back of the pans helped
Will be a quick car with some more development I am sure. A lot of setup testing to happen yet :-).
Was very flat, got going quickly with just some minor tweaks to flatten but nothing major required.
Soldered easy and as yet no staining or rust from the flux
Handling - Very lively compared to the (already lively) X25, with a slight tendency to pop the nose out on longer sweeping flat corners, I guess that's the result of light weight and torquey motor, and a track with heaps of grip.
Some lead on the back of the pans helped
Will be a quick car with some more development I am sure. A lot of setup testing to happen yet :-).
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