Scratchbuilt chassis gallery
#76
Posted 21 December 2008 - 07:42 PM
After my first attempt came out too goofy, I rebuilt it, just grafting on a spare standard JK nosepiece I had laying around. The finished chassis came out quite a bit more "normal" looking.
With the narrow 3/4" wide bracket, I made a little more effort bracing the outer part of the axle tube.
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Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
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#77
Posted 21 December 2008 - 08:10 PM
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#79
Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:19 AM
"Drive it like you're in it!!!"
"If everything feels under control... you are not going fast enough!"
Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
#80
Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:05 PM
Double .062" main rails on the inside and outside of the motor bracket running to the front clip (.062" plate). Bulletproofed the S-7 guide since I had to cut so deep for guide clearance because of the 3/4" GL rule. The prototype I built like these had some chatter coming out of slow turns and on starting up so I added gussets on each side of the motor box and this seemed to eliminate the problem. The pans are hingeless and the movement is controlled by up/down and back and forth stops.
Some close-ups:
The bare chassis weighs 79 grams and should come in at around 130/135 grams RTR. The prototype ran about .5 seconds slower than the faster Can-Ams on 'Slots of Fun's' 135 Grandstand so hopefully they will be competitive when SERRA comes to town.
Don Weaver
Don Weaver
A slot car racer who never grew up!
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#82
Posted 27 January 2009 - 07:35 PM
There's still some work to do to get it to 100%, but here's what I have so far of the retro chassis I intend to bring to the R4.
This picture was taken to show one of the style of my Dad's chassis I've broken down and raided for components. He insisted that I save this one from all of the others in the bottom of the box.
#83
Posted 27 January 2009 - 08:14 PM
Can I offer some advice??? In order for the solder joints to have any strength you have to clean and scuff all the pieces of brass and steel wire before you try to solder them together!!! These cars take a beating and even the best solder joints often break.
Mike Katz
Scratchbuilts forever!!
#84
Posted 01 February 2009 - 01:09 PM
Brass is all .032" thick with the pan and nose design similar to my torsion chassis in post 33. Guide tongue is a trimmed down Slick 7. Main rails are .063" with a small piece of .063" brass at the top of the rails to help support the guide tongue. The nose is hung using two pieces of .032" wire over the guide tongue. The pans are hinges in the front using 1/16" tubing with .032" wire inside. The rear of the chassis is connected to the pans with a tube on the center section which has a piece of .055" wire passing through it which is then attached to the pans. The center section slides side to side a little for some give. Forgot to mention the guide lead is 7/8" and the wheel base is 3.950". Body mounts are shakers.
Sorry for the poor clarity. My wife broke the good camera so I had to resort to a camera phone.
A motor is only as fast as the chassis it's in.
Dominic Luongo
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#85
Posted 01 February 2009 - 03:10 PM
I like it! The guide area looks along the same lines as the car I built in Feb. 2008 and have been running since then. My chassis uses a stop hanging down from the front axle to hang the nose. This works the same way that the .032" wire over the guide tongue works on your chassis.
I have found this to be a easy to drive car. I have another design that might be slightly faster but I turn more laps with this car due to less offs! I'm in the process of building Gen. II as we speak. I will post pictures when finished.
Bob Campbell
BC RallySport
Colorado Springs, CO
#86
Posted 03 February 2009 - 08:00 PM
Rick Bennardo
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#87
Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:54 PM
4.5" wheelbase , .750" guide lead, 2.993" width.
When I get a chance, I'll add some pics to my JK Spec chassis article on where to cut it and how to brace it.
Formed (coined) steel guide brace.
Cut lines in the chassis are capped with two pieces of .062" piano and a piece of .064 x 1/4" brass.
JK hypoid bracket. Torsion bar wire stops were soldered on, overhanging the stock pans a bit. I then ground that overhang flat, even with the ends of the pans, and butt-soldered some .064 x 1/4" strip on to lengthen the pans and add weight to the back tires.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 692 Citadel Drive, Westmont, Illinois 60559
#88
Posted 06 February 2009 - 12:31 AM
D3 Scratchbuilt chassis gallery??!!
Well, I guess I'll post some pics, too, fellas !! LOL !!
Many thanks to Bryan Warmack, for one of his super-sano anglewinder motor brackets...
My buddy Mr. Bell up in Stockton had requested that I build some RetroNASCARs to run in Division III at BP that could use full-width .820" rear tires from JK... Bryan's sano motor bracket allowed me to keep the rear end narrow enough to let that happen...
.062" x 1" x 1.2" long nose piece, with two .047" piano wire "spacer" rails, soldered on each long side... .078" main "U"-rail ... 4.5" wheelbase, with a .700" guide lead, to fit the ED Mercury Cyclone body... I used .055" piano wire inside of 3/32" brass tubing for the pan hinges... Pans are .890" wide, cut from 1" x .032" K&S material... Made me remember Mr. John Kallas, who used to race with us in D3, but hasn't been around lately... John's excellent chassis used this style of hinge... Easy to fabricate, and allows extra surface area on the pan to add weight, when needed...
I'm sure Mr. Bell will enjoy running this, when I get it finished... I really enjoy building RetroNASCARs, they're pretty darn sano!!!
Thanks, guys... Everyone take care, and good building and racing ...
Jeff Easterly
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#89
Posted 06 February 2009 - 07:49 AM
John Chas Molnar
"Certified Newark Wise Guy since 1984" (retired)
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Retro Chassis Designer-Builder
#90
Posted 07 February 2009 - 03:56 PM
Not quite finished but you get the idea... Used a cut down BWA bracket. And all brass rod construction.
GTP Joe Connolly
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is.
#91
Posted 16 February 2009 - 03:09 PM
Guess I should call it either the Blue Moon Mobile or Not a Snap Together.
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Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
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"Team Evil Bucks" Racer - 2016 Caribbean Retro Overall Champion
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#92
Posted 16 February 2009 - 03:59 PM
NOT A Lee Gilbert Chassis... fun to do just the same!
GTP Joe Connolly
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is.
#93
Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:46 PM
This is a close-up of the axle tube reinforcement on the REH #3000 bracket.
Next is a center pivot chassis I once made for VMRA. I know it can't be used at any D3 or Retro event, but I couldn't resist myself.
And here's a close-up of the center pivot action with floating pans. I may put this together just for the fun of it.
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#94
Posted 08 March 2009 - 09:57 PM
I found an old M&M nose piece .050" thick and figured this would be great for this class of race car. Since this is a faster class and we run the Big Dog motor, the thicker nose piece will be much stronger for the inevitable hard hit. I also extended the front axle uprights forward and perpendicular at the leading edge of the nose piece for added bulletproofing.
Notice the third inner rail, this is so I don't have to cut the ear of the can side of the motor.
At the back of the car I've design in extra adjustability by using a hinged bite bar assembly.
On to the front, here I've incorporated an additional hinge to not only hold the pans parallel but also to keep them from dipping down under the car, thus keeping them from dragging the track.
Enjoy and thanks for lQQking!
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#95
Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:52 PM
Here is my first attempt at a IRRA/Retro East chassis which I hope to race as a GT Coupe at this weekend's R4, unless it's junk...in which case it will be back to my trusty Skunkworks.
Thanks to Mike McMasters for telling me about Retro Slots last June, Rick Bennardo for his chassis building parts and equipment (especially his jig) and, most of all, to Jersey John Molnar who has freely offered tips, advice, and constant encouragement.
Motor bracket: BWA, uncut
All rails, axle supports and pan hinges are .062 piano wire
Guide tongue: R-Geo, .040 pre-formed
Inside main rail separation: .830
Tongue narrowed to .830 to accommodate inside main rails and shortened to 1.8"
Pans: Modified R-Geo, .026 x .867 wide
Pan stop: .055 wire in 3/32 square tube
4" wheelbase
15/16" guide lead
58.8 grams
Tumbled (obviously)
If I had it to do over (which I do!), I'd make the hinges out of smaller wire and would reinforce the forward part of the pans to prevent droop.
#96
Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:37 PM
Slow Poke Racing
#98
Posted 01 April 2009 - 05:03 PM
.062" main rails, .047" center rails, JK bracket, S7-620 Guide tongue, .750" guide lead, 4.5" wheelbase, .032" thick brass, RTR weight (without lead)=119 grams.
Jay Guard
IRRA Board of Directors (2022-Present),
Gator Region Retro Racing Co-Director (2021-Present)
SERRA Co-Director (2009-2013)
IRRA BoD advisor (2007-2010)
Team Slick 7 member (1998-2001)
Way too serious Retro racer
#99
Posted 01 April 2009 - 05:09 PM
.032" thick brass, .062" main rails, .047" center rails, S7-620 guide, .900" guide lead, JK bracket, 4.0" wheelbase. RTR weight 104 grams.
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Jay Guard
IRRA Board of Directors (2022-Present),
Gator Region Retro Racing Co-Director (2021-Present)
SERRA Co-Director (2009-2013)
IRRA BoD advisor (2007-2010)
Team Slick 7 member (1998-2001)
Way too serious Retro racer
#100
Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:08 PM
JK 3/4 bracket, .062 pans hinged with .062 in 3/32" sq tube, 4" long, 1" guide lead, "Coined" guide tongue, .078 wire in 3 sided 1/8" channel up stops (very little movement).The center brass piece is only soldered to the rails for 3/4's of an inch....I will see how the bite is and go from there. I made the rear long but able to fit under a Cooper. Can adjust as necessary. I'll let you know how she works!
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