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#51 Horsepower

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 06:29 PM

Sure wish someone would make those bodies again.

 This is the first time I have actually seen an unpainted one. Beautiful and, and as the box says, crystal clear!


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#52 Bill from NH

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 07:26 PM

Rick, the additional chassis weight won't hurt your chassis handling a bit. It might even help it. At the least, it'll save on the Pb. (not peanut butter :laugh2: ) You're not building this car to run on king tracks,


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Posted 21 October 2021 - 08:29 PM

Almost ready to start on that beautiful Lancer Super Competition body.   :)

 

And you're right Bill about the chassis weight. It should hopefully help this car on a road course. I actually chose the heavier of the 2 versions I have of Nutley pans and drop arm for the build.

 

The motor is finished and sounds great. It only draws 1.2 amps at 4 volts:

 

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I painted the can with VHT black wrinkle but the spray can clogged up as I was spraying. I changed to a new spray nozzle but that didn't help. I baked the can to bring out the wrinkle finish but the coverage was thin and you could still just see the chrome base metal underneath.   :dash2:

 

Rather than wait for a new can of paint to get shipped here I sprayed on a light coat of flat black. It subdued the "wrinkle" somewhat but it turned out OK. From now on I'll always have a backup can of whatever paint I'm using: 

 

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While I'm on the motor, I thought I'd show my self taught method of shunted brushes and insulated brush springs on these old motors.

 

The brush spring is bent to center it in the brush holder slot:

 

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Then some clear Teflon tube is placed on the spring for insulation. I want it to as much as possible disappear. I think spring insulation came about a bit later than this build but I'm trying to keep those plastic spring posts from melting down. Mura end bells are scarce. The theory is that if no current is allowed to pass through the spring that will reduce heat:

 

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The shunt wire is laid along side the brush:

 

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That puts the shunt wire tucked in tight away from the spring:

 

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The shunt wire is pulled up over the brush hood leaving just enough clearance for free movement as the brush wears and it's well clear from touching the spring:

 

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That leaves enough shunt wire to wrap it all the way around the lead wire tab. This reduces solder flow down the shunt wire that would stiffen it and the lead wire can be soldered on without worrying about the shunt wire falling off:

 

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And that's about it.   :D


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Posted 21 October 2021 - 09:42 PM

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Posted 21 October 2021 - 10:20 PM

Nice wrinkle paint on the can!  :)


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Posted 22 October 2021 - 05:49 AM

Cool motor. Nice how-to, very helpful.

Found a white Mura endbell recently and the heat sinks had melted deeply into it. So not too bulletproof.
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Posted 22 October 2021 - 11:09 AM

dc-65x, I hope you don't mind me posting this on your thread. This is in response to Horsepowers question of"does anyone repop this body?". A sad example compared to the original but, better than nothing? Oh, O/S 453

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Posted 22 October 2021 - 11:48 PM

dc-65x, I hope you don't mind me posting this on your thread. This is in response to Horsepowers question of"does anyone repop this body?". A sad example compared to the original but, better than nothing? Oh, O/S 453

 

Or maybe this?

 

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115 - 1967 Ferrari 350 Can-Am.


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Posted 23 October 2021 - 05:59 AM

Red fox has a good one too.
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Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:30 AM

Saw this photo in the Dec. 68 issue of MCS. It wasnt in the thread so thought I would post it. 5949B6E9-9353-41BD-A872-9865C5C9F461.jpeg
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Posted 23 October 2021 - 06:17 PM

Lancer is the best. Enough interruptions, Lets let him prove it!

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Posted 23 October 2021 - 08:04 PM

The "New Lancer Company" made new Lexan bodies on original molds. At one time I had one of their Ferrari Can Am bodies. I can't remember if it was the Super Competition version or not. Maybe some are still knocking around at online retailers or raceways?

 

Before I could mount my body I had to get the rolling chassis finished up. The front wheels needed a modification to be "free wheeling". One wheel gets locked on the axle as usual and the other collet lock gets snugged down just enough to spin freely without wobbling and Loctite applied.

 

I soldered a small axle spacer on the end of the axle. The brass collet got counterbored to recess the spacer for a flush fit to clear the wheel insert.

 

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Now the roller is finished enough to mount the body:

 

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The body mounted nice and low:

 

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Posted 23 October 2021 - 09:14 PM

Rick, were your "New Lancer Company" bodies the ones sold in plastic bags  with black on lavender header tags? I used some of those.


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Posted 23 October 2021 - 10:20 PM

Those are the ones Bill.


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Posted 24 October 2021 - 03:28 PM

I've always been told these were pulled by the father of Bob Haines for Bobs's REHCO Distributing  in Cincinnati.  Mid America in the Chicago area borrowed some of REH's molds last year & had a few bodies pulled for sale. I don't know if any are still available.


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Posted 24 October 2021 - 04:08 PM

Here is a Lancer reproduction.  It is Lexan.  Back to Rick's build.

 

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Posted 25 October 2021 - 11:45 AM

Red(lol)Fox. Enough of the distractions! Back to the build!

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Posted 25 October 2021 - 08:31 PM

I'm working on the Can Am Ferrari, trimming up the interior, smoothing out the Cox driver's head and cutting out the cockpit area of the body.

 

I've also decided to finish up the body and interior of another build I stopped working on almost 10 years ago.   :shok:  It's another Ferrari and since it's red too I might as well paint them both. I think it's a cool car and I'll be posting its progress in the thread link below:

 

The Can with nine lives

 

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Now back to making the detail parts for the Can Am Ferrari......... :D


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Posted 25 October 2021 - 10:33 PM

Phil Hill would be proud. To thin to be VonTripps.

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Posted 01 November 2021 - 05:38 PM

Would it help if I email or fax you a coffee? I'm anxiously awaiting your completion of this Rodin of slot cars. I if you need racing red, I have a bottle with your name on it Mr. Patrica

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Posted 01 November 2021 - 05:39 PM

Oh,I forgot, you don't like the painting part.

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Posted 02 November 2021 - 09:58 AM

Mark, i agree. that's the problem with this modern world- you can't email hardware.  i did ruin a fax machine once many years ago trying to send a beer, just to see what would happen. 

and worst of all, Control-Z doesn't do anything if you cut your finger! unless you do it virtually i guess. 

 

i love this project car!  


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Posted 02 November 2021 - 08:08 PM

I've been busy making up the some doohickies to spruce up the finished car starting with exhaust pipes:

 

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I didn't think I could just punch holes in the curved recessed area on the body for the pipes so I made up this little plastic piece and 4 aluminum tubes:

 

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Here it's assembled and painted flat white:

 

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Next up were some quick release caps, 3 in all. The body has just one molded in. I making mine like this version so I need 2 more:

 

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I saw quick fill gas caps being made in an old 60's magazine article out of a screw with a straight pin soldered into the slot:

 

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So these certainly don't look as realistic as could be done today with computer aided design and 3D printing......but they were sure fun to make:

 

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Here's the tray full of doohickies. Wheel inserts, knock offs, roll bar driver's head and that lovely Lancer interior:

 

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I've got a couple of days to do my brush painting before my son gets here for a visit.   :)

 


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Posted 02 November 2021 - 10:15 PM

Thanks. I was going through thread withdrawal. I'm better now. Can't invision how the exhaust(ing) bracket attaches. Oooooh!, The Suspense !!!!

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Posted 07 November 2021 - 06:57 PM

Just missed out on a lancer Ferrari Can-am body & a Alfa T-33. $65.25 U.S dollars ea. I hope someone reading this bought them. I really just wanted the Alfa T-33. Oh well.





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