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[MSwiss]

Some stuff up in 15 minutes or so.

[MSwiss]

Thanks to all who came and drove and helped out to make things (no pun intended) real easy on me.


The 8th Wonder of the World, "The Thingie Motel",
minus John Dilworth's car who blew his gear train and motor in pre-race practice.


Da Boyzz


Manta Ray Price already had a fresh motor with him for Bob I's Astro V.


The driver's have left the building.


The results.
5th place in the C Main should read Phil Smith.
I guess I confused the common last name.

I also have the heat by heat totals I'll post in the near future.
That'll show us the true best lap time by the Oscar, D. Zimmerman and
Ralph Klose cars. Their times shown are obviously "riders".

[slotbaker]

Excellent stuff.
Looks like I had 2 runs.
4th in B, and 5th in C.
Good night Chicago.

[chief32s]

Thanks for that Mike. (and all the guys...looks like a good turn out).

A nice result for me to start the day on, I wish I could have been up to watch the live feed though.

Shame that How's car was a DNS, I think most of the field have picked up a place there.

I'm trying to watch the videos of the heats, but my computer is as tired as Bob's motor.

ATB
Al.

Nice one Barney.

[MSwiss]

Al,
Your body with the super-tall, thin wheel arches in the front broke.
With the body holding the pans in, the lack of stiffness really screwed up the handling one heat.
Someone, between heats, ran strapping tape from the left to the right side to stiffen it up,
and car got good again and held onto 5th.

PS-Is your chassis hand or CNC cut?
Either way, it's awesome.

[MSwiss]

Excellent stuff.
Looks like I had 2 runs.
4th in B, and 5th in C.
Good night Chicago.

Your car only ran once.(4th in the "B")
5th in the "C" should read "Phil Smith".

I guess I confused 9 total letter names that also have common last ones.

[chief32s]

Al,
Your body with the super-tall, thin wheel arches in the front broke.
With the body holding the pans in, the lack of stiffness really screwed up the handling one heat.
Someone, between heats, ran strapping tape from the left to the right side to stiffen it up,
and car got good again and held onto 5th.

PS-Is your chassis hand or CNC cut?
Either way, it's awesome.

Ooooh dear (lol) that's a bit of a blow. hehe. Will the repair hold? Is that strapping tape from pan to pan across the chassis? (many thanks to the chap that stitched that together in the heat of battle) Any pictures? Damn x-project bodies. lol. It took me days to pull that 'one' successful body.
Another temporary fix for the pans would be an elastic band (not too tight) wrapped from pan to pan. This would keep the pans together, without the reliance upon the body..... I think.

J. if I can get another body pulled would it be OK to send it along to one of the future races?

Mike, The chassis is hand cut, with a piercing saw.



bugger of a job !


ATB
Al.

[havlicek]

I was able to check out the race several times and the whole thing seemed so well run it was pretty amazing! I guess if I do another proxy, I should get a regular body to build around as it was obvious me blister pack was a problem for the drivers Then again, I wanted to thank the drivers for doing their best with mine and ALL the cars. Of course, a BIG thanks to Mike for the way he hosted and ran the race...amazing!

Major props to Barney for his win and to my buddy Jairus for his strong showing as well! Does anyone know who else besides myself, Barney and Jairus is running one of my motors or arms? I feel lousy for John about his DNS...even more so because his car was a missile according to Mike.

-john

[32Deuce]

Congrats to Barney on the win, and to Lowrider & Rob to round out the podium!

Great job and many thanks to Mike Swiss & the "Boyz" who are top notch drivers as well as great individuals ( I can testify to that having raced with them )

The live feed was a great "popcorn & beer" event for me, hell I missed most of the CARDINAL GAME (did I hear some BOOOOOO's??)

Gonna be tough to top!

Z

[Mopar Rob]

Does the Dyna-Rigg get 1 point or Zero Points and does Barney get 26 or 25 points?

[Lone Wolf]

How cool was that? Thanks to all who made it happen. Sorry my car handled like S#%T . A real pain for the drivers. On Bob's car perhaps some weight can be removed to speed it up a little. Easiest way to go faster .

[One27ray]

Great race program Mike, I enjoyed watching the race on video Saw most of the C-main, a close race and thanks to all the participants who made it happen

i-ray

[Mopar Rob]

Here are what I came up with points giving 0 points to the Dyan-Rigg for a DNS since it didn't start and 25 points for the winner since only 25 cars were entered. I'm not sure what Jairus is going to do and these points might be wrong? I'm sure Jairus will post official points when he has a chance

First column is bonus points, second column is race points and the third is Total points after the first race

MantaRay.........................................70-18-88
Dyn-Astro X-2...................................80-01-81
Six-T..................................................70-08-78
Future Kingie Thingie.......................70-07-77
Dynogram.........................................60-15-75
Oscar Da Grouch...............................60-13-73
Budweiser.........................................55-10-65
Titanic...............................................60-03-63
Scorpion............................................40-20-60
Le Derriere........................................50-09-59
Aculeus..............................................45-12-57
REM Raceway...................................35-17-52
Orange Crate.....................................25-25-50
EdoTRON...........................................45-04-49
Streamliner Cuc................................20-23-43
Replatron Dyna-Slider......................20-22-42
Miss-K...............................................20-19-39
The Needle........................................35-02-37
Roadkill..............................................25-11-36
Rocket 88...........................................20-16-36
Mubachi Racha...................................30-05-35
Mini-B.................................................20-06-26
Wave Maker.......................................00-24-24
Blacklight............................................00-21-21
H Power & the Cotton Swabs...........00-12-12
Dyna-Rigg...........................................00-00-00

Please check your points for any mistakes

After the fist round it looks like Ray might have had the right idea with a car the works fairly well and was built to receive maximum bonus points

[32Deuce]

Rocket 88................20-16-36

I think Rocket 88 missed his Dynamic points for an original paint motor so, his starting points should be 30, no?

Z

[chief32s]

Just a thought on the point situation,

Since there are 26 cars in the proxy then I think the points should be awarded from 26 points down. So Barney would get 26 points for his win and 1 less for everybody in order. Whereas for poor Howmet, as a DNS I would say it should receive 0 points (sorry H). If a car runs but but is a DNF then it should be award points according to where it comes in the laps completed table. Mostly this would be last place. However, A DNF in this race would get a minimum of 2 points because of Howmet's DNS.

The reason I think this is fair is because in a situation (lets hope it never arrises) where several cars are DNS it does n't seem right to penalise the rest of the field by awarding them less points. For instance if there were 6 DNS top points would be only 20 which seems wrong to me.

Lets say this happened when a midfield car was performing particularly well on a certain track and came in first, it seems unfair not to award it the full complement of points because there were 6 DNSs. Do you get my drift?

Anyway, these are only my thoughts. Jairus will no doubt declare shortly.

ATB
Al

PS. Rob, I like the way you have displayed the results with bonus points followed by race points followed by total. I think we should keep that.

[Mopar Rob]

UPDATE:

Astro X-2 - 80
MantaRay – 70

SIX-T - 70
Oscar Da Grouch - 60
Future King - 60
Dynogram - 60
Titanic - 60
Bud Car - 55
Derriere - 50
EDOTRON -45
Aculeus - 45
Scorpion - 40
REM Raceway - 35
Needle - 35
MabuRacha - 30
Roadkill - 25
MabuRacha - 30
Orange Crate - 25
Streamliner Cuc - 20
Rocket 88 - 20
ReplaTron - 20
Miss K - 20
Mini B - 20
H Power - 0
Blacklight - 0
Dyna-Rigg- 0

FutureKingieThingie 70pts
(He sent in a lead weight just before the race started.)

I think Rocket 88 missed his Dynamic points for an original paint motor so, his starting points should be 30, no?

Z

I just used what Barney had posted for bonus points and made changes based on Jairus's correction. Not saying it's correct?

[Mopar Rob]

Just a thought on the point situation,

Since there are 26 cars in the proxy then I think the points should be awarded from 26 points down. So Barney would get 26 points for his win and 1 less for everybody in order. Whereas for poor Howmet, as a DNS I would say it should receive 0 points (sorry H). If a car runs but but is a DNF then it should be award points according to where it comes in the laps completed table. Mostly this would be last place. However, A DNF in this race would get a minimum of 2 points because of Howmet's DNS.

The reason I think this is fair is because in a situation (lets hope it never arrises) where several cars are DNS it does n't seem right to penalise the rest of the field by awarding them less points. For instance if there were 6 DNS top points would be only 20 which seems wrong to me.

Lets say this happened when a midfield car was performing particularly well on a certain track and came in first, it seems unfair not to award it the full complement of points because there were 6 DNSs. Do you get my drift?

Anyway, these are only my thoughts. Jairus will no doubt declare shortly.

ATB
Al

PS. Rob, I like the way you have displayed the results with bonus points followed by race points followed by total. I think we should keep that.

I agree, first place should receive the same amount of points regardless of how many cars have been entered. I just posted my interpertation of the way I read how the points system worked.

I'm sure we'll see when Jairus posts official points if not I can easily make a correction based on what Jairus says.

[The Bugman]

26 entries,,,just because 1 didnt start because he broke,before the race,,,he's still entered and payed his $50.00 he should get 1 point,and everyone 1 extra point,cause there are 26 entries (IMO)

[Gator Bob]

1 point for showing up sounds right.
Attached is points (uncorrected) if race points are calc at x10 and original Dynamic points are included every race (parts may or will change as we go)
This seems to be more rep of what really happened.

Attached Files

•  points race 1.bmp   634.76KB   9 downloads

[chief32s]

Yes Oscar, I think that would also be fair...Even more than fair.


But, if there were 6 DNS would they then receive 6 points each (equal last place) ,or would they receive 1 point each. and the rest of the field counted down from 26 to 7 ?

Al.

[Bernie]

I would like to thank everyone that has made this series happen. I was one of the lucky ones invited to race these wonderful cars last night @ Chicagoland Raceway (thanks Mike) and had a great time. In the past, these old cars did not really interest me but now I have a new appreciation for them. Its was very fun to drive all the different cars and have to learn each one on the fly. If anyone gets the chance to participate in the next races, it is not to be missed. Great fun.

[MantaRay]

1 point for showing up sounds right.
Attached is points (uncorrected) if race points are calc at x10 and original Dynamic points are included every race (parts may or will change as we go)
This seems to be more rep of what really happened.

Bob, I think it was decided to add Dynamic Points just once...........26/25 points for win and one less on down the line

[Mopar Rob]

Attached is points (uncorrected) if race points are calc at x10 and original Dynamic points are included every race (parts may or will change as we go)
This seems to be more rep of what really happened.

Works for me, I'm higher up in the standings with your system

[Jairus]

Sheesh.... it's hard getting up on the west coast and missing out on hours of conversation!

Okay, All cars that broke and need parts... send them to Barney. The cars will go into the mail on Monday, no time to fix until the week before the next race. That will give Mr. Dilworth time to mail any needed bits.
Al is correct, A car that doesn't start receives 0 points. (Sorry J.D.)
Seems his motor smoked some but still runs. If Barney has a replacement arm... or anyone else wants to donate an arm to the cause. Please come forward.

First place 26pts and last place 2pts. We will do this for all the races regardless to keep things consistent.

Bob Israel, I would strongly consider you changing your motor bracket over to a 36D sidewinder and dropping a couple tongue weights. You do not need to of course... but going on a diet has been strongly suggested by more than a few here, me included. Think about it.
Thanks, Ray Price for donating a new 706 motor by the way. That was above and beyond the call!

Al, there is nothing wrong with a little battle damage. But, If you want to send in another body... get busy and git'er done!

Rocket 88 has 35 bonus points. (Tongue 10 Front axle 10, Front wheels 5, Motor 10)

Congratulations Mike Swiss for being a fantastic race host! Indeed the bar has been set impossibly high in the very beginning.

Did I miss anything?
(Still working on the points. Will post again shortly)

[MSwiss]

For those who weren't able to watch live;

C Main

B Main

A Main