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[dc-65x]

The NorCal events name has been changed to:

 

"NorCal V-town Rumble"
In Memory of Gene Husting - Drag Proxy

 

Hope you guys will join in!

[SlotStox#53]

Found a nice little motor for one of my cars for next year Bob

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now whether to leave the nice little 6 volt arm in there or whack in another new RAM/Kemtron 7 pole 3V beast .. Mmmm factory fresh just decades old ...

Oh what car to make for this mill .

[dc-65x]

I just sent a NOS RAM 6V arm to Rodney to try in his rail. I polished the comm a bit and it measured only .3 ohms

 

As Bob Braverman often said, "That should really haul the beans!"

[SlotStox#53]

Good to know ! Thanks Rick   May just add some BB's to it and leave it alone

[dc-65x]

Not sure if they are all the same but on my RAM 850 the darn bearings were only 7/32" X 1/8" not the common 1/4" OD. I had to bore out the end plates.

[SlotStox#53]

You're right Rick, 7/32 outer diam bushing just like the Pittman DC85 that Don sent me . Needed to be bored out to accept the common 1/4" OD BB's .

[Gator Bob]

NICE!

Darn,... I might have been bidding against you Paul if that's the 850 that was on ebay early in the week.

 

I still have never had one of these 'Master' Locks .... lol

[SlotStox#53]

Yeah it was the one that was on epay earlier Bob .. Darn it if I was bidding against you I should of said something on here .

Serves me right If you blow my doors off down the track ! .

[hiline2]

Hopefully I can get my act together and come up with some entries, Both DC85s and maybe some DC65s ! and other padlock style motors/cars. Going to try and pull together a "team"  from this area, I got the cars,  hardware and parts  but  tech skills limited. We will be hailing from East Texas and maybe go by the name "Pine wood Racers"

[Gator Bob]

Paul E.

You got a great motor ... I 'should' have bid more ... LOL

 

 

 

Paul B.,

Although I'm not from Texas I'll help or do a team car with you.

 

You have a Kemtron chassis IIRC. Those are fairly 'easy' to build up.

 

Gather your parts, pick a body style and please join us for the 2nd annual "Rods and Rail" event coming up in May 2015.

[Gator Bob]

2nd Annual "Rods and Rails" ideas:   

 

 Open frame plate motor class.

               

 Modern wheels and tires. 

[SlotStox#53]

The modern wheel & tire is cool, especially the wheels as most threaded wheels & axles suck

The modern repop Russkit set screw wheels are perfect & you can still fit the vintage tires on them .

Anyone try the padlock motors on modern sponge? Too grippy, make em hop?

Edit: some of the modern drag wheels would look awesome on a vintage rail

[boxerdog]

Well, I realize we aren't voting, but.....

 

The Russkit repops and so forth are fine, but I'd hate to see any of the modern drag stuff (wheels or tires) on these cars. They just don't look right on vintage cars, just my opinion. They are great on the new cars, but I think they might provide a significant advantage. Where does it stop?? Neos, spring steel chassis,???

 

I really like the open frame class idea. In the back of my mind, I'd still like to see a merged, single set of rules so that we can run the same cars in East and West Coast races. We are not that far apart right now, maybe it can be done if enough people get behind it.

 

Just my .02

[SlotStox#53]

Sounds like a plan David open cage motors would add to the event , certainly make a challenge picking the right stuff.

Can see what you mean about the wheels & as for rule differences I can only really see a few .

The hard body only, 1" minimum rear tire, all the different classes..

Where as the 1st annual Drag proxy had vac form bodies as an option and all against all with the Rods & Rails

[don.siegel]

I'm very much against modern wheels as well - a little harder to tell about the tires, because 40 year old tires don't always work so good! They seemed to be okay for the padlock drag proxy, and we'll see how those old Graupners and VCs work for the R&C proxy. 

 

An open motor event would be nice, and tailor-made for DC65X! 

 

Don 

[SlotStox#53]

Don , I thought the DC65X was already in? Being a small padlock?? Or am I missing something

[boxerdog]

I think the 65x is in regardless...I'm not sure if the open frames need to be a separate class or if we could just expand the rules to include them, like the West Coast rules do. The biggest sticking points might be the vac-form bodies and rolling front wheels. Personally, I think the bodies should be OK, and the front wheels off the track and out of the goo.

[SlotStox#53]

As long as the body rule stays the same & doesn't end up saying they have to be "American production cars" like the west coast rules , I've got a body lined up that's pre '67 & foreign

[boxerdog]

Well, the "sports cars" can be foreign, and a lot of foreign cars are sporty.....what are you up to???

[SlotStox#53]

all I can say without spoiling the surprise or is that 2 possible sedan cars include some Italian flair & are not "sports cars" or produced in the USA .

Oh one maybe either truck or van based too, still pre '67

[boxerdog]

Well, "Altereds" can also be foreign and many were...Anglias, Thames trucks, Austins, Fiats, Bantams etc. 

[SlotStox#53]

Ah yes remember all those being Altereds & that clears up a few body options I've been looking at using.   Got stuck on the whole American production car wording of the other class descriptions Clears up my confusion!

 

One question about the VW Bug , as the real Inch Pincher was in the Gas class, would the model VeeDub just move into the "Altered" class under the West Coast rules?

[DVan]

Question: to the racers that ran these car from Fla., when you guys ran these cars, what modifications did you have to make so the cars could launch without jumping out of the grooves or de-slot?

We seem to have problems with most vintage cars of the day that want to deslot. They seem to have a hard lauch for some reason.

 

  DVan

[SlotStox#53]

I didn't make any modifications, the chassis was literally the one I built for the Florida event No practice & no prior Dragster building experience whether modern or vintage.

However I managed it the Beetle just got up & went off the line

 

As for others & mods , I know they had to add a lot of lead to the front of Don's Fiat altered with mag sidewinder chassis & hot rewound RAM motor. It was hard launching & popped right out of the slot!! 

 

 

here's the link to page 8 of this thread and a little down the page is the video of some of the cars launching off the line .

Florida launches!

 

The 3 K&B rail clones of Davids from what I saw & heard didn't have any deslotting/hard launching issues and they're based off original designs with the motors & vintage tires.

[boxerdog]

One question about the VW Bug , as the real Inch Pincher was in the Gas class, would the model VeeDub just move into the "Altered" class under the West Coast rules?

 

That's up to Dvan and the rules guys, but it seems logical enough.

 

Question: to the racers that ran these car from Fla., when you guys ran these cars, what modifications did you have to make so the cars could launch without jumping out of the grooves or de-slot?

We seem to have problems with most vintage cars of the day that want to deslot. They seem to have a hard lauch for some reason.

 

  DVan

 

There might be a few reasons. I only know about my cars, but generally I think that the cars in Florida:

 

1. Had fairly hard vintage tires or urethanes I think

2. Had most front end weight resting on guide at start not on front wheels

3. Weight was added if needed

4. Cars had weighted drop arms in many cases

 

I know I tested mine at MoTown on 16v, so I knew they would most likely go down the track unless there was too much glue. The Florida guys evidently did a great job of track cleaning and removing the shutdown glue or we would have all had problems. A little wheelspin is your friend! Perhaps gearing differently might help as well, hard to say.