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Posted 28 November 2015 - 10:23 AM

Joe,
How are your new builds coming? I see you are also working on an Enzo. This car is quite popular in our GT1 class because it is cheap and in snaptight form very easy to build.

Here are a few images of our grid at the last race at STR and a few of the last race at Electron - many Enzo
 


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:12 AM

Sundays Hardbody race was a blast !  There were some new fast lap times and lap totals (even though we only ran 6 lanes this week).  It was good to have Jerome from the Tri-State HO club racing with us again.  Here are this weeks results...

 

1  Max Mohring                Porsche 962

2  Joe Emm                      Porsche 911

3  Andy Sr                        Olds 88

4  Kurt Mansfield              Cobra

5  Chris Wendel                K5 Blazer

6  Carl Paterson               Ford Fairlane

7  Charlie Schlottfeld        Capri GR5

8  Jerome Burwell            Lotus 30

9  Alex Wendel                 Petty Plymouth

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 08:26 AM

That was a good race and the finish was in proper fashion. the race car over the production car


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Posted 01 December 2015 - 10:34 AM

Seems like a great turn out. Can't wait to get back and race with you guys. See you guys soon

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Posted 03 December 2015 - 11:19 PM

Hope to see you sunday glenn! we miss you!!!! 

miss you guys too. I have had a cold/flu for the past 3 weeks which turned into a sinus infection, and getting better now due to an rx. have my slot car are finally set up in my basement so I can get back to racing soon  :) 


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 09:02 AM

Hats off to Jerry Herbert, The Race Place owner.  He manages the race, marshals and controls track calls all at the same time.  Congrats to Charlie for taking the win and Will has figured out that slower is faster and its paying off with a second place finish.  Here is this weeks results...

 

1  Charlie Schlottfeld            Porsche 962

2  Will Davis                          Lotus 30

3  Kurt Mansfield                  Cobra

4  Max Mohring                    Olds 88

5  Carl Paterson                   Ford Fairlane

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 09:15 AM

On behalf of The Race Place I would like to send best wishes and a speedy recovery to fellow racer and friend Chuck Malave who is having back surgery today.  We hope to see you back on track soon!


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Posted 15 December 2015 - 05:45 PM

It was a long Sunday at The Race Place....  Hardbody followed our monthly "Three Track" series points races.  After an easy seven hours of racing it was time for some red-eyed Hardbody.  Here are this weeks results...

 

1  Charlie Schlottfeld           Porsche 962

2  Will Davis                         Lotus 30

3  Curt Mansfield                 Cobra

4  Max Mohring                   Capri GR5

5  Carl Paterson                  Porsche 911

6  Andy Sr                           Olds 88

 

 

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 05:34 PM

I enjoy seeing the progression of a class.  Better cars, better driving skills, better lap times and lap totals.  The Porsche 962 bodied car defiantly is the one to beat.  A 6.80 fast lap and 199 lap total set the track record for the class.  Will and the Lotus 30 showed a fast lap at 6.5,  it left our jaws wide open, however a "rider" was the reason.  Hats off to Charlie who was capable of going 7.19 with a 5 inch long wheelbase Olds 88 sedan :good:!  Great racing...  Thanks to all the guys that show up every week, its always a good time.

Here are this weeks results...

 

1  Max Mohring              Porsche 962

2  Will Davis                   Lotus 30

3  Kurt Mansfield           Cobra

4  Charlie Schlottfeld     Olds 88

5  Carl Paterson            Ford Fairlane

 

 

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Posted 25 December 2015 - 05:55 PM

Merry Christmas to all of my fellow Hardbody racers everywhere. I have unpacked all of my 1/24 scale Hardbody cars and parts, cold/flu/sinus infection is finally gone (!), and I am looking forward to racing again soon.

 

Chris- please post when the next race at The Race Place will be. I will do my best to be there. It's time to break out the vintage Tamiya bodied Lola T70 and get my challenge car(s) built. Getting bodies lined up for new building projects.  :)


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Posted 25 December 2015 - 06:55 PM

Hardbody racing is every Sunday at The Race Place!!! Open practice at 5,race at 6.pm. Hardbody Challenge follows right after. Come on back Glen! We will be racing this Sunday.
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Posted 25 December 2015 - 09:00 PM

Merry Christmas to all of my fellow Hardbody racers everywhere. I have unpacked all of my 1/24 scale Hardbody cars and parts, cold/flu/sinus infection is finally gone (!), and I am looking forward to racing again soon.
 
Chris- please post when the next race at The Race Place will be. I will do my best to be there. It's time to break out the vintage Tamiya bodied Lola T70 and get my challenge car(s) built. Getting bodies lined up for new building projects.  :)


Good Luck Glen - the Porsche looks like a winner!

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 09:52 AM

The holidays brought together a great group of racers this Sunday for some Hardbody racing.  It was nice to see Glen and the Hardy boys back.  Allen was there for his first Hardbody race with his new cherry red Mustang.  And biggest surprise was Chuck back after some major back surgery.  It really did feel like Christmas!   Kurt was sporting a new build and Chris took first place with a well refined IROC Z Camaro.  Good friends and good times.  A big thanks to Jerry Herber for giving us a great facility to race at.  It has been a great year of racing, looking forward to 2016.

 

Here are this weeks results...

 

1  Chris Wendel                  IROC Camaro

2  Glen O.                           Porsche

3  Max Mohring                  Olds 88

4  Chuck Malave                Orange Porsche 962

5  Kurt Mansfield                Purple ?

6  Carl Paterson                 Ford Fairlane

7  Alex Wendel                   Petty Plymouth

8  Alan S.                           Ford Mustang

9  Dave Hardy                    Mercury/Dodge?

10 Chuck Hardy                 White Toyota/Mazda?

 

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 11:54 AM

Chris and Glen,
It appears that only you two are using static brass side pans. My experience is that these definitely improve performance and make the car much more stable and easy to drive. What do you think?

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:15 PM

Dave Hardy was racing a 1977 Mustang, and yes, Dad Chuck (we can all call him Uncle Chuck!) ran a Toyota.

 

As for the static brass pans, i have been experimenting with them on some of my cars, and i have removed all lead weights from  the inside of the chassis. I prefer the performance with the static brass pans. I had a talk about this with Max after the race, and he is building much lighter cars without the brass pans and very little lead weights inside the chassis. And yes, his cars are very light, fast, and handle well. So next race we plan to swap each other's cars for track testing, compare notes, and go from there.  I am ready to take my cars to the next performance level. With this class of cars, it comes down to basic slot car chassis tuning (everything level and square, remove all binding), mounting the body LOW, tune the chassis with weights based on the size, weight, and type of body, experiment with sizes and brands of tires, and keep improving your car's lap times. a 9 second car can be tuned to run in the mid 7 second lap range easily. As Max says, it's a lot of little things (tuning), and it all adds up in the end. Some of it i already know, and some skills i will learn.

 

   Oh yeah, i having a BLAST racing these hardbody cars!  More Vintage Stockers and Hot Rods to come  :) 


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:25 PM

Dave Hardy was racing a 1977 Mustang, and yes, Dad Chuck (we can all call him Uncle Chuck!) ran a Toyota.
 
As for the static brass pans, i have been experimenting with them on some of my cars, and i have removed all lead weights from  the inside of the chassis. I prefer the performance with the static brass pans. I had a talk about this with Max after the race, and he is building much lighter cars without the brass pans and very little lead weights inside the chassis. And yes, his cars are very light, fast, and handle well. So next race we plan to swap each other's cars for track testing, compare notes, and go from there.  I am ready to take my cars to the next performance level. With this class of cars, it comes down to basic slot car chassis tuning (everything level and square, remove all binding), mounting the body LOW, tune the chassis with weights based on the size, weight, and type of body, experiment with sizes and brands of tires, and keep improving your car's lap times. a 9 second car can be tuned to run in the mid 7 second lap range easily. As Max says, it's a lot of little things (tuning), and it all adds up in the end. Some of it i already know, and some skills i will learn.
 
   Oh yeah, i having a BLAST racing these hardbody cars!  More Vintage Stockers and Hot Rods to come  :)

We are racing on very tight tracks. STR has inner corners at only 8 inch radius. My track, Electron Raceway has inside corners at 12 inch radius. Also straights are very short. This track configuration lends itself to handling at the expense of some top end. The .062 brass static pans seem to be the answer. For longer tracks .031 inch pans might work better but I simply don't know. It will be interesting to see you and Max swap rides and please post impressions. My son lives only about an hour from you guys. I might just build a car for him. When he was younger we raced flexi cars and later on some hard body rides (son is nearing 40 years old - that tells you about how old I am)

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 02:26 PM

Yeha i feel that the tuning on our track is going to be worldsdifferent then your track out west. we have long straights and big sweeper turns. you have tight tight tight. so what we do and what you do will likely be way different. 

I like to tune with gear ratio.  if you cna change pinion try dropping it to keep the motor wound out and use a smaller spur thus allowing for lower axle and smaller tire and over all better turning.  maybe be able to take some of the lead out rich!


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 03:46 PM

Yeha i feel that the tuning on our track is going to be worldsdifferent then your track out west. we have long straights and big sweeper turns. you have tight tight tight. so what we do and what you do will likely be way different. 
I like to tune with gear ratio.  if you cna change pinion try dropping it to keep the motor wound out and use a smaller spur thus allowing for lower axle and smaller tire and over all better turning.  maybe be able to take some of the lead out rich!


Most classes we run 5 to 1 ratio. What are you guys using?

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 05:53 PM

Rich, our rules only allow a 9 tooth pinion and depending on tire size we are anywhere between 3.5 and 3.0.  That's with a JK 25k motor in a H&R chassis.


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 06:39 PM

Rich, our rules only allow a 9 tooth pinion and depending on tire size we are anywhere between 3.5 and 3.0.  That's with a JK 25k motor in a H&R chassis.


That gearing is tall, however, I am not familiar with the JK25k motor. We are using deathstars or Proslot sealed 16d motors in most classes. The exception is the GT1 class that uses Hawk or Falcon 7 motors

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 04:41 PM

Ran the static pans on the same chassis using the K5 and the 85 Camaro. The static pans helped the K5 and gained me .2-.3s per lap. The pans made the camaro super consistent but the car just lugged off the corners, made the car a momentum racer and it was hard to adjust in traffic and keep the lap times. I am already running a 9/31 and a 32 gear needs to be sanded to fit.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 04:45 PM

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Alright, found these gems and need to decide which to use. The mercedes will fit without a problem but I may IMSA the porsche 944. Let me know what you all think.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 04:59 PM

The Mercedes looks cool but the wheel wells on the Porsche look more accommodating.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 05:08 PM

porsche is narrower and would look like chucks green import you mounted. I think i need to make a full mod out of the porsche.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 07:52 PM

Ran the static pans on the same chassis using the K5 and the 85 Camaro. The static pans helped the K5 and gained me .2-.3s per lap. The pans made the camaro super consistent but the car just lugged off the corners, made the car a momentum racer and it was hard to adjust in traffic and keep the lap times. I am already running a 9/31 and a 32 gear needs to be sanded to fit.


Chris,
What is the K5? Perhaps the Camaro is much heavier also check for clearance issues. Maybe the body is rubbing on the wheels.

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