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Posted 27 September 2015 - 01:55 PM

Yup and the spring post shouldn't melt again. The whole brush holder might sink into the endbell but the spring post should be OK. :shok: :laugh2:


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Posted 27 September 2015 - 02:04 PM

That's a powerful motor for a jaildoor. Is that why they started using brass strips ?

 

More power, heavier chassis ?


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Posted 27 September 2015 - 03:03 PM

more tracks went to battery power. Motors got faster, chassis got heavier. It's a cycle.

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 08:34 AM

more tracks went to battery power. Motors got faster, chassis got heavier. It's a cycle.

 

Yeah, a motor-cycle!

 

sorry... couldn't resist.


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 02:51 PM

Rodney just sent me a Russkit Competition Bodies ad I've not seen before. Our Russkit Lola T70 is pictured along with other super cool bodies I've not seen before:

 

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I wish I had at least one of each! :wub:

 

Thanks for sharing it with us Rodney :good:


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:20 PM

:heart: those are some sexy slot car shells :D

That Ford MkIV is pretty darn low!! Didn't know Russkit made any of these, that charger !!

Wonder if PdL has any or all of these?

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 04:01 PM

I don't think all of those ever got released, if they were they never made the east coast.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:37 PM

I don't remember them either.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:43 PM

I have or have had the Cooper Maserati GP, El Fin Roadster, Ford Mk IV Coupe and Lola T70 Roadster (used for this project). I believe Rodney has showed me his Lola T70 Coupe also. So at least 5 out of those 10 bodies made it into production.


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 06:01 PM

We had the same ones except for the cooper.

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 07:27 PM

I finally got some modern "weenie" tires from Alpha for the car. I don't have a raceway so I have to rely on online suppliers. Unfortunately the Piranha's were back-ordered. When they were finally shipped the Post Office lost them for a week.

 

The "vintagification" of the modern weenie tires began with cutting off the overhanging rubber on the inside (stock weenies on the right):

 

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Then about .030" was cut off the front to bring the width to 5/8". This also exposed the rim so they don't look quite as pathetic as a stock weenie. The inside of the wheel is also polished:

 

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I've also got a pair of modified Alpha wing car tires shown next to the vintage Weldun display wheels on the right:

 

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I'll be shipping all these tires along with the car and a junk body to Rodney. He's graciously agreed to test the car out on Eddie's Blue King and flat road course. If there are any problems, Rodney will find them before the car goes to Howie to try out.

 

Watch this space................


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 07:46 PM

The excitement is building :D

Did you try out the car with the Alpha sponge on your track Rick?

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 08:25 PM

Yes, I ran it with the Alpha blues. It ran great on my track.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 10:27 PM

I will be watching, Sir :ph34r: :wink2:

My experience is, when a car tests well (meaning: forgiving with no bad habits) on a short track with tight turns,

it will handle well on a big track "no problemo" :good:


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:50 PM

Okie Dokie, Rodney received the Howie ARCO car and put it through it's paces on a Blue King and a tricky flat road course. Since the Russkit PRO Lola T70 body was not yet available I fitted an old Chaparral 2F for the test.
 
Here's Rodney's report:
 
Pre-test Preparation
 
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Prior to testing the car was inspected.  The fender wells were enlarge to ensure the tires would not rub when rum on Eddie's Blue King track.
Some detail was added to make the care more visible on the track.  A small rear spoiler was added to make the body handle more like a Russkit Lola T70.  The guide flag is set up for recessed braid (front wheels touch on with braid recessed). 
 
Off to Eddie's Slot Car World
 
Everyone at Eddie's loves the chassis workmanship.  A real work of art.
 
Tire Tests
 
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The car was first tested on the road course to try out the different compounds of tires. Tire choices are blue "display tires", blue modern rubber, Alpha Supernatural rubber and Alpha Piranha rubber.  The Alpha Piranha tires worked the best.  These were the only tires that could hook up the cars power down the straight without wheel spin.  So all subsequent testing is with the Piranha tires.  Because this is an inline car with more much front weight bias and the high horsepower motor, only the softest stickiest tires worked low our low spray glue tracks.  With a milder motor, other compound tires could be used.
 
Testing on the Blue King
 
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The car would not make the turn after the finger that leads to the donut.  The car wanted to go straight.
I first tried taping the drop arm to limit travel.  This did not help  Time to check the car again on the set up block.  The guide retaining washer and set screw were hitting the nose of the Chaparral body with only very minor compression of the body.  So the Chaparral body was modified with the nose vent above the guide post that you see.  This solved the de-slotting problem. Eric commented that the guide tube could be shorter if it does not clear the Lola body. The car has great acceleration  and does not have the best brakes.  The car is really fast through the fingers The banked turn is clutched.  The car is also very fast around the donut and though the turn that leads to the main straight.  Lap times were in the 5.9 to 6.3 second range on the Blue King.  Best was 5.87 seconds.  Pretty fast lap times!  The motor does get a little hot around the commutator area so testing allowed time for the motor to cool between runs on the Blue King.
 
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Back to the Road Course
 
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The car motor does not overheat on the road course so many laps were run.  I got a best of 7.66 seconds.  Compare this with the best time of the Rod & Custom Proxy Road Race of over 8 second laps.  The car handles neutral and under-steers when pushed.  Also, when pushed, the nose of the car would jack up in the turn due to the long drop arm travel.  Eddie wondered what was going on.  Modern Racers are not used to slot cars with drop arms.  The car may work better if the drop arm dropped at the most an 1/8".
 
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Driving Impressions  Summary
 
What a crazy fast car.  Lap times don't lie.  Lap times would even be crazier if the car had better brakes.  The motor drove like a typical 1970 open motor.  Works best with the electronic controller sensitivity set like a 1.5 ohm resistor controller.  The chassis works great and the car carries great speed in the turns.
 
We all love the car .
 
That's a great report Rodney, THANKS! What we think after this test is the car would probably turn faster lap times with a more period motor and tires. Less radical horsepower with more brakes would need less rear bite to harness that horsepower. That would allow the car to tail out at the limit instead of the nose popping out of the slot first.....which can lead to a wall shot.  :shok:
 
We're going to leave that hot rod motor in the car because it's a Team Cobra and Howie should have a blast driving a high horsepower vintage rocket ship! :crazy: 

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:41 PM

 What a great road test. This is so cool. The car looks fantastic and seems to really perform. I am awaiting the chance to see what it can do. I see a trip to Chicagoland and the King track are in order. Fun stuff  


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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:30 PM

Sounds like a plan to me Howie...........and thanks again for your help Rodney :good:


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:09 AM

Too bad there is not an original surface King to try it on like it was run on in the day. Beautiful,car. Like I said befor I made many copies of this and it was the east coast state of the art until angle winders came out.
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"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:54 AM

If the tube needs to be trimmed, Capt. Rick has the perfect tool for that :dance3:


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 09:04 AM

And someday I am going to get the body done for this. Really, I will.


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 10:59 AM

Noose, the best things in life are worth waiting for and I think the body you're going to do is one of them.  :good:

 

I do wish I'd sent the body to you with a "spreader" inside it to keep the sides from curling back up. When I got the thing it was a mess with the sides all curled up. I worked and worked it to get them in proper (more or less!) shape. I'm worried the sides are curling back up over time. Is there a 3" wide or so little box or something you can fit in the body to keep it from curling back up????


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 11:00 AM

I think I can handle that.


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 11:02 AM

THANKS!  :)


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 07:42 AM

OK it's done.  Ta da.  The Lola T70 Howie might have run if it was sports cars.  Done to the specs of Howie himself.

 

Oh and an old time photo version of it too as if the pic was taken back then.  LOL

 

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 08:18 AM

Very retro.

"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 10:48 AM

Whoo Hooo! That red really pops! :heart:


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 12:22 PM

From the archives here is the real "old timey" version of  Noose's masterpiece:

 

 

 

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 04:54 PM

It's finally finished and ready for Howie to try out:

 

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Stay tuned for what's up next for her............. :)


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Posted 27 January 2016 - 06:20 PM

A beautiful time machine.


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Posted 27 January 2016 - 11:00 PM

Truly an amazing project. Congratulations to all who had a part in it. Howie, you continue to be one lucky dude!


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 11:13 AM

Once a again , a fantastic job by Rick on this project. Can't wait to take it to the track and see how it feels. I intend to video the test run for all to see. 


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 11:22 AM

Top quality as always Rick and the rest that were involved. On top of that the photo quality really adds to the ooohhhh aaaahhhhh feeling for me.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 12:27 PM

Howie don't let some kid put you in the wrong lane this time.
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Posted 30 January 2016 - 02:23 PM

Tony, I'll be waiting for him this time .


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Posted 31 January 2016 - 09:25 AM

I found the perfect music for the video, Howie - "Lines form on my face and my hands......"


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 11:54 AM

UPDATE:

 

Howie's ARCO TQ tribute car is going directly to LASCM after his test drive next week  :)

 

Thanks Scott and Philippe :thank_you2:


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 04:33 PM

Here's Howies PM to me about his test session on Chicagoland's King track:
 

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Hi Rick,

Just got back from the track. Put the chap body on it and the blue tires. Car was loose and would not go around the track with track power set at 9 volts. Motor is wicked fast even at 9. I gave it lots of choke and it was going around the track OK but not wanting to go around the doughnut. At this point it was running 6.0's.

Car all of a sudden slowed dramatically but still running. Something was rattling, the can busing had come off. I soldered it back on and continued, motor is fine.

I put on the black tires and the car was much better but bad in doughnut. I put tape across the bottom of chassis and then around to severely limit movement and that helped a lot. It was moving good then and I could run it no choke on 9v to 5.5's.

We then turned voltage up to 12, still low but the motor was ballistic. I put choke back in and got it down to 5.46. This is really quick for one of these.

I then put on the Lola body and we shot a video of me running it for a couple of laps and took these pics at the track.

Everyone loved the car and thought it was fantastic!

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The signed box with the car for LASCM

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Here's the 49 year old Team Cobra can we used that the bearing came loose on. I thought about resolding it but I didn't want to mess with its originality. I'm glad Howie is the one who got to fix it:

 

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Looking at this close up picture I think I see a crack in the joint I didn't notice in real life. :dash2: :crazy:

 

Here's Howie's YouTube video of putting his baby through it's paces on Chicagoland's Blue King track:
 

 
WOW! Howie's got it really moving! :shok: :good:

 

Am I a lucky guy or what?   :thank_you2:   Thank you Howie for letting me work with you on this project. And thank you Noose and PdL for all your help and Scott Bader for inducting this car into LASCM.

 

AND, the really cool thing is there is another of Howie's great cars in the works with the additional help of one of the best builders, my friend, Steve Okeefe. :sun_bespectacled: Stay tuned................

 

 

 

 


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 05:00 PM

Holy Cow that runs super !

Doesn't look like it's having any problem in the donut, or anywhere else, to me.

Gearing sounds right on the money.


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 05:18 PM

That thing is hauling tail!!! :D Really fast!

So cool watching the recreation being driven by Howie :good:

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 05:22 PM

I think it's hauling tail because of Howie. He's definitely giving that car some mojo! :clapping:


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 06:06 PM

I love how rather than just taking a few parade laps and shelving it, Howie's changing tires, putting tape across the bottom to limit movement.... overall just trying to make it run faster! Once a racer, always a racer! Fantastic project. Looking forward to the next one.

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 08:31 PM

When Howie showed up at the track, on Saturday, I had the power at 9.0V from a previous rental.

 

When he started doing laps, I went to tell him about the low power level, but seeing how fast the car was in the bank, I checked my rental supply first to see if I had changed it, and forgot, which I  hadn't.

 

He spent quite a bit of time getting the car right, and eventually it really came around.

 

He was pushing it hard, and took advantage of my soft walls at least a few times.

 

For the heck of it , I just tried my modern Retro F1 car on 9V, and the best it could was 5.65.

 

On 9V, the vintage rewind was way faster, hence the better 5.55 lap time with the 67 Arco car.


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 08:55 PM

Rick, what wind ended up in that car, please ?


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:18 PM

Thanks for some of the back story Mike. It's interesting how taking movement out of the chassis made it faster on today's tracks with today's tires. And, THANK YOU FOR THOSE SOFT WALLS!!!!!!!! :laugh2:

 

Pablo, Howie decided to go with a genuine Cobra armature although it was a year or so newer than is absolutely "Korrect" for the car. It's a Cobra double wind and it's my guess from inspecting it, that it was produced for Cobra by Mura.


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:53 PM

No doubt Howie is a master of tuning even after almost half a century :clapping:


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Posted 29 February 2016 - 09:58 PM

 THANK YOU FOR THOSE SOFT WALLS!!!!!!!! :laugh2:

One of slot's racing great mysteries;

 

Manufacturers, over the years, making equipment more durable/reliable, but 50+  years of almost 100% hard walls on commercial slot tracks.


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Posted 01 March 2016 - 11:15 AM

Below, Howie comments on getting a vintage style to handle with modern tires on today's tracks:
 

Car was unreal fast with no choke. makes a great sound and looks like it is flying. Congratulations on a great job and mission accomplished. I had a blast running it.

 

It was really challenging to get it up to speed though. Taking Most of the movement out is the way to go on these tracks. That is not to say No movement , I think that in micro amounts it is essential to isolate things.

 

Future projects will be great. H


Thanks Howie


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Posted 01 March 2016 - 11:57 AM

Its good to see this car run before it goes to the museum.

 

Race cars gotta run!

 

Cheers


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