#1276
Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:51 AM
Here's a shot of the Mura Walnut and one done from an SCX motor. The SCX one is shorter in all dimensions, but especially the height and the width. That one runs like the dickens too
-john
#1277
Posted 27 February 2010 - 12:17 PM
Would the walnut work in one of the "over the counter" stamped chassis? I'm presuming that the SCX motor (depending on the wind) can put out a bit of torque also?
Really exciting stuff John! What SIZE can are you gonna call these "gems"?
Thanks for sharing my friend.
Ernie
#1278
Posted 27 February 2010 - 12:18 PM
Magnets will be the determining factor however. I did the same with mid 80's Mura and installed a ProSlot G27 arm. The car ran hot all the time and progressively got slower and slower. A set of good cobalt magnets are what I need, but who can spend that much on a plaything?
(Well, some can, but I cannot.)
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#1279
Posted 27 February 2010 - 12:50 PM
Would the walnut work in one of the "over the counter" stamped chassis? I'm presuming that the SCX motor (depending on the wind) can put out a bit of torque also?
Hi Ernie,
Sure it would (as long as it was for a modern C can). As for what to call the size...um...I'd just call it "walnut size" Anyway, like I said, these sorts of things have been done many times and this is just my take on the concept. It turns out that the Mura C can happens to be really easy to do this with, there's a LOT more work in the arm than the can
Those are pretty little motors!
Magnets will be the determining factor however. I did the same with mid 80's Mura and installed a ProSlot G27 arm.
Hi Jairus,
Thanks. I think these newer cans are a much better candidate than the old ones and even a set of Red Dots seems to be a good match for at least a #26 wind from the report I got from Jeff Easterly. On the other hand, I wound this one a little hotter (although still a #26) and that's why I may put in those Pro Slot HEQ magnets. A lot is shade tree mechanic stuff though, without doing the kind of testing of field strength properties I can't be bothered with. The little guys do seem to run like the dickens and not get egg-frying hot. I can't really tell what's what though until I get my power supply problem sorted.
-john
#1280
Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:30 PM
#1281
Posted 28 February 2010 - 04:50 AM
There's nothing like a modern set of Parma brush hoods to roll the odometer back on an old Mabuchi endbell and give it new life. I kinda gave 2 right side brush hoods a retro look on an old crusty 26D here a while back: http://slotblog.net/...pic=17068&st=60
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#1282
Posted 28 February 2010 - 08:43 AM
#1283
Posted 28 February 2010 - 09:35 AM
-john
#1284
Posted 28 February 2010 - 09:47 AM
#1285
Posted 28 February 2010 - 09:56 AM
Definitely keep pushing the envelope, because failure is really the only way to test the limits of a material or a technique. In other words, you will never know for sure what the limits are until you pass them! I wouldn't rule out the paint for hotter winds. The temperature rating is fine, even if it is a little optimistic, the bonding characteristics of the material will be more important since some of these toy motors spin amazingly fast. The force trying to tear apart an arm at those speeds is not insignificant. So you want a material that will build a film that hardens to hold the coils together, but still penetrates the coils...besides the temp thing. Just because people have used epoxy for this, that doesn't mean that there aren't other suitable alternatives. I like the fact that you've kept an eye out for less expensive alternatives, if I had to reorder the epoxy right now, it would be really tough with the way the economy is!
-john
#1286
Posted 28 February 2010 - 11:34 AM
#1287
Posted 28 February 2010 - 09:29 PM
It was sounding great until it hit 10 volts and then it came apart.
After disassembly, I also noticed that the end bell started to melt at the bushing.
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K
#1288
Posted 28 February 2010 - 10:15 PM
#1289
Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:41 AM
The depth and width of the balancing holes will really depend on the shape of the inside of the arm. Most have a fairly wide inside and the crown area is pretty thick, but you still have to try and "picture" how far and wide you can go when drilling according to what's in there. Starting off with a 1/16th bit, you can define the maximum depth and if you need to take off more than that, go with wider bits, but only really using them to chamfer the original holes so you wind up with a wider/shallower cut. It's still a great looking job you did and will help you figure out the balancing thing. You also know a lot more about the rest of the stuff like tieing the com and how well that seems to have held up, not shorting the arm on the stack, epoxying etc. I'm sure you and Robert will be winding some real missles soon!
-john
#1290
Posted 01 March 2010 - 07:56 AM
Look at what I seen in Ohio over the weekend!
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#1291
Posted 01 March 2010 - 10:50 AM
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#1292
Posted 01 March 2010 - 11:05 AM
How did it run? I'm sure it turned a few heads!
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#1293
Posted 01 March 2010 - 11:31 AM
Are you saying the 31 got hot enough to melt the 36d endbell? If so, something else is wrong with the set up. In order to test the paint, we need to isolate the variables.
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#1294
Posted 01 March 2010 - 02:22 PM
How did it run? I'm sure it turned a few heads!
I was wondering the same thing...so...how did it run Brian???
-john
#1295
Posted 01 March 2010 - 03:26 PM
I'm sure Mr.Frank will be by to read this thread,as he can tell you how it runs as I never got to see this one run, just the twin motor Falcon car under this one.
From what Mr.Frank claims it SCREEEEEAAAAMMSSSS!
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#1296
Posted 01 March 2010 - 03:47 PM
Hi John,
I'm sure Mr.Frank will be by to read this thread,as he can tell you how it runs as I never got to see this one run, just the twin motor Falcon car under this one.
From what Mr.Frank claims it SCREEEEEAAAAMMSSSS!
Yea guys, IT SCREAMS, Thanks john for the motor, just want to see how long it lasts now. Had a body from RAY NODA and put a chassis togather in about 3 hours, nothing fancy but something for flat out speeeed. YEA and thats what I got S P E E D. That car is geared 7-27 and it just RIPPS the tires. Runs low 5 on our AMERICAN KING, that is what our flexis GT/1s run with an 8-28 deathstar motor. More is on the way.. Yea it turns some heads, they see that motor and says WHAT THE %#*$!@^ is that..
Mr. Frank
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#1297
Posted 01 March 2010 - 03:52 PM
-john
#1298
Posted 01 March 2010 - 04:57 PM
Mr. Frank
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#1299
Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:07 PM
Brian is one hellof a crafter
He sure is Frank!
Is it gona have one of your motors in it?
...there's some talk that he does have one to stick in there
-john
#1300
Posted 01 March 2010 - 09:22 PM